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  •  That's possible, you know (3+ / 0-)
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    You can't change the country of your birth, but you can change your country of residence, and often your citizenship.

    I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong. - Bertrand Russell
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    by sullivanst on Mon Apr 06, 2009 at 07:35:57 AM PDT

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    •  Changing your country of residence (0+ / 0-)

      and citizenship is very difficult unless you come from a very priviliged background and have the right set of professional skills.

      •  Or you're grandparents were from the (1+ / 0-)
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        Republic of Ireland.  At least, it used to be easy to get Irish citizenship that way, which makes residency in the EU simple.

        If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -- George Orwell

        by nilocjin on Mon Apr 06, 2009 at 07:50:42 AM PDT

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      •  Not true at all. (0+ / 0-)

        First of all, migration and citizenship law varies hugely across the world. Even for a given destination country, it often varies significantly, at least in its effect, depending on the country of origin of the migrant.

        Secondly, work visas are not the only way to migrate. Whilst it may only be a tiny fraction of applicants, the US allows a significant number of people immigrant visas through a lottery, where no evaluation is made of the usefulness of the immigrant's professional skills. Moreover, there is family-based migration, which is how I got my green card.

        Finally, although it doesn't apply in this case, within the EU there is free migration. Anyone from England can go live in any of the other 26 member nations, without having to satisfy any threshold test beyond holding an EU passport.

        I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong. - Bertrand Russell
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        by sullivanst on Mon Apr 06, 2009 at 07:53:38 AM PDT

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      •  You forgot Marriage. (0+ / 0-)

        It remains quite a popular and common institution, even among people of -- gasp! -- different nationalities!!

        •  You tend to forget marriage (0+ / 0-)

          when it's not legal for you ;-)

          It's also not exactly a practical tool for planned immigration. "Hmmm. I want to become an Italian citizen. Now, I just need to fall in love with and marry an Italian!"

          •  You're looking at it from the wrong angle. :) (0+ / 0-)

            Look at it from the perspective of an Italian wanting American citizenship.  There are lots and lots of people in the world quite desperate to marry Americans!

            Put it this way: if you think marriage is not a practical tool for planned immigration, we should dig up the figures on how many Americans marry foreign nationals every year.  Foreigners marry Americans for the Green Card all the time.

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