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  •  Prepare for the Mormon invasion (11+ / 0-)

    (I feel free to bag on them, since my entire family on both sides is Mormon.)

    They came to California, spent millions, hid the source, lied, scared people, and eventually won.

    Learn from the mistakes made in CA. And get as many same-sex couples married there as possible, so it will create a legal nightmare if they try to overturn.

    How we know Daffy Duck is Republican: "It's mine, understand? Mine, all mine! Get back down there! Down down down! Go go go! Mine mine mine! Mwahahaha!" --BiPM

    by rhetoricus on Mon Apr 06, 2009 at 11:46:08 AM PDT

    •  Mormon hypocrisy on parade. "Live frugally" (9+ / 0-)

      is a theme at their annual "'s Jesus' Real Birthday and also Birthday of the Mormon Church" conference.

      Shorter: "We need you to save more money so when we ask you to spend it to fight homo marriage it will be available."

      •  "Live frugally . . . and have eighteen kids." (4+ / 0-)
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        Mormonism.  Yeesh.

        "If elections really changed anything, they would be outlawed."--Emma Goldman

        by keikekaze on Mon Apr 06, 2009 at 01:15:39 PM PDT

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      •  Mormon hypocrisy: "5000 years" (3+ / 0-)
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        The Latter Day Sinners have not moved to correct those who say that for 5000 years, marriage has been between "a man and A woman." It was only 119 years ago that the mainstream of the LDS stopped practicing polygamy.

        Proud Citizen of Barackopolis.

        by Judge Moonbox on Mon Apr 06, 2009 at 01:38:03 PM PDT

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      •  oh please (1+ / 0-)
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        hmmm, what current events of the day could possibly inspire the leadership of the LDS church to preach on frugally and the dangers of debt?

        btw. you seem to have missed the conference addresses that actually do relate to the marriage equality fight...

        Pres. Thomas Monson:

        The moral footings of society continue to slip, while those who attempt to safeguard those footings are often ridiculed and, at times, picketed and persecuted.

        and more significantly, here is Michael Watson, quoting former LDS Pres. Harold B. Lee:

        You may not like what comes from the authority of the church. It may contradict your political views, your social views, or it may interfere with your social life. But if we listen to these things, as if from the mouth of the Lord himself,with patience and faith, the promise is: the Lord God will disperse the powers of darkness from before you and cause the heavens to shake for your good and His name's glory.

        now i wouldn't get too worked up about the heavens shaking bit. it's a common stylistic indulgence of the mormon hierarchy, old men who grew up mostly in rural utah or idaho like Lee did.

        in any case the message there is pretty clear and it's aimed at mormon moderates: get in line.

        it's ironic though that the quote used comes from the man who, probably more than any other church leader, was responsible for the 1969 internal effort to end the racist priesthood restrictions being turned back (those restricts would remain in place clear until 1978).

        "I don't think they're going to be any more successful in 2010 or 2012."
        -Yes On 8 co-manager

        by jethropalerobber on Mon Apr 06, 2009 at 01:43:59 PM PDT

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    •  They were already IN CA though (5+ / 0-)

      They're not in IA, not really.  The wingnuts there are not Mormon...

      "Polls are like crack, political activists know they're bad for them but they read them anyways."-Unknown

      by skywaker9 on Mon Apr 06, 2009 at 12:27:21 PM PDT

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    •  they already lived in CA... (0+ / 0-)

      ...and they already live in IA.

      mormons already live everywhere - they don't need to "invade".

      "I don't think they're going to be any more successful in 2010 or 2012."
      -Yes On 8 co-manager

      by jethropalerobber on Mon Apr 06, 2009 at 12:50:30 PM PDT

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    •  yes (2+ / 0-)
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      I have issues with anyone (Mormon or otherwise) telling me how to live my life. I think if we make this a referendum about inappropriate religious influence rather than gay marriage, it actually helps our side.

      BTW, I love your comment about getting as many same-sex couples married there as possible. If it weren't for the legal problems it would create, part of me wants to get married there just to spite the bigots.

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