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  •  You may be right. (4+ / 0-)
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    Cowalker, elmo, kktlaw, FarWestGirl

    Alternatively, President Obama may sincerely believe that the Bush wiretapping plan was the right thing to do, even if Bush violated the law by not getting congressional approval before beginning it.  And now he doesn't want the baby thrown out with the bathwater.

    Either way, President Obama should confront the issue plainly and personally, and tell the American people whether he thinks that surveillance plan was right, and if so why, and if not why he won't tell the DOJ to step back and let the cases go to trial.  He ran on a platform and practice of being honest with us, and crediting us for enough intelligence to handle an honest, adult debate on the issues.  So let him bring his case to us, and let us debate it with him.

    Good morning! ::huggggggggggggs::

    •  Here's my theory (2+ / 0-)
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      NCrissieB, kktlaw

      Obama is going to cover up everything to do with FISA because Democrats broke the law too.

      The worst feature of this is that Obama is kicking the strengthened unitary executive power can down the road where it may well be picked up by another president like Bush. It's pretty damn cynical on Obama's part.

      •  First, the Democrats weren't in power. (4+ / 0-)

        The decision to begin wiretapping without warrants and without congressional authorization was made by the Bush Administration.  They may have briefed some congressional Democrats on the plan, and those Democrats may not have publicly exposed and objected to the plan, but that doesn't make those Democrats civilly or criminally liable ... because they had no legal duty to publicly expose and object to the plan.

        You can argue those Democrats had a moral and civic duty to publicly expose and object to the wiretapping plan, and I would agree with you.  But a moral and civic duty is not necessarily a legal duty, and civil and criminal liability attach only to violations of a legal duty.

        Democrats who went along with the plan or kept their objections private did not "break the law," because the law doesn't require them to go public with those objections.

        Good morning! ::huggggggggggggs::

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