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  •  Sure, but (1+ / 0-)
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    DaleA

    as a religious matter, the law does not necessarily mean moral, ethical, or even not sinful.  For example, Orthodox Jew believe that certain things are wrong, or against their religion, even though those things may be perfectly legal.  

    Believe me, there are parents in Massachusetts who, pretty much as we speak, are teaching their children that, despite what the law says, same sex marriage is depraved, evil, immoral, sinful, a sign of depraved character, contrary to nature -- put in whatever awful adjective you want there.  They are doing it (some of them are in the same national homeschooling network as my relatives).  Their children are growing up hearing nothing but this (they homeschool through high school, which is perfectly legal in most states, and then are very selective about which colleges they go to (there are a lot of very high academic achievers, National Merit Scholar types in the bunch) and which courses they take.  For example, several have gone to MIT, which is viewed as a more technology-centered institution, but they wouldn't be caught dead at Harvard.  

    •  Oh of course there are (1+ / 0-)
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      But when push comes to shove, they don't have any argument as far as saying that public schools can't teach about it or mention married gay couples or whatnot.

    •  I feel really bad... (10+ / 0-)

       ...for any of those kids who realizes he or she is gay.

       Any gay child who survives a fundamentalist upbringing with his psyche intact is a remarkable story.

       As for the general point, there are several churches that don't recognize things like divorce and contraception -- and yet you don't hear these church adherents "worried about their children" calling for divorce and contraception to be banned by the state -- not publicly, anyway. They're nothing but a loathsome gaggle of hypocrites.

      "Le ciel est bleu, l'enfer est rouge."

      by Buzzer on Wed Apr 08, 2009 at 07:25:20 PM PDT

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    •  In our society, they are free to do so (1+ / 0-)
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      We don't prosecute beliefs or ideas, only actions.  Period.  

      I would hope that these children will eventually break out of the bubble of their upbringing, but their parents still have the right to teach them their religious beliefs, however repugnant others find those beliefs.  

      And, believe me, if they go to MIT, they are going to be exposed to alternative views.  

      •  There will always be people who believe (1+ / 0-)
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        same sex unions are wrong. The good news is that they are an ever smaller and smaller group.

        Only power used to empower is everlasting. Prof. Scott Bartchy www.nurseconscience.blogspot.com

        by ludlow on Thu Apr 09, 2009 at 01:09:17 AM PDT

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