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  •  Um...... (0+ / 0-)

    "No, it just means Dems were willing to give the other guy a chance, while GOPers had made up their minds in advance."

    Excuse me - but - again - doesn't this mean that Bush and Reagan were LESS DIVISIVE?

    The poll makes no declaration on the REASONS FOR the division - nor the psychological motivations behind any 'polarization'. So anything that one 'reads into' the numbers is completely unwarranted and unobjective - since no question was asked about WHY ones opinion was negative.

    The simple statement that Obama seems to be more polarizing would seem to be true. But the REASONS FOR IT are not to be assumed by either side - since the reasons for it were not asked in the Poll - or were not cited in the internals.

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    by GayIthacan on Thu Apr 09, 2009 at 08:30:34 PM PDT

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    •  Not at all (0+ / 0-)

      It means that Democrats are less divisive than Republicans.

      Republicans had made up their minds in advance to be against Obama. And Clinton. Not because of anything they did, but because they weren't Republicans.

      So nothing Obama did or Clinton did (and Clinton carried out a lot of the GOP agenda, on welfare, for example) would have changed their minds.

      Democrats, on the other hand, were willing to give Reagan and Bush the benefit of the doubt in the beginning. So when their numbers dropped, it was because of what they had, Reagan and Bush, had done.

      To be divisive means one has to take some action (or fail to take some action) that is divisive. The only action Obama and Clinton took that the Republicans consider divisive was to place their hands on the Bible and swear to defend the Constitution as president.

      The poll may not have asked that question (hard to ask in a poll), but the actions of the Republicans make all that clear.

      It is not the business of the state to help its citizens get into heaven nor to save them from hell.

      by DanK Is Back on Fri Apr 10, 2009 at 06:37:17 AM PDT

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