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  •  I prefer to see "god" as... (1+ / 0-)
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    a powerful metaphor for a transcending mystery that we all wrestle with at some level... just not my metaphor.  And I have always had a much more positive sense of Mother Nature than you have experience.

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    by leftyparent on Mon Apr 13, 2009 at 01:07:35 PM PDT

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    •  Unfortunately (5+ / 0-)

      Most people see "God," not as a metaphor, but as their excuse for any action one cares to take, when the need for an excuse arises.

      It may feel good to come up with some fantasy that God-belief is harmless, but it isn't.

      What we prefer, what we choose to believe, what we're uncomfortable with should never affect our clear understanding of what is actually going on.

      For the record, we all don't wrestle with this so-called mystery.  You have to be brought up with a philosophy that believes there IS a mystery for that.

      •  Point taken on who wrestles... (2+ / 0-)
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        I will be more careful with my scoping of that.  But I at certainly do run into a lot of people where I feel their belief in god is a positive thing and motivates them to good ethical behavior.  I do not want to undermine their ethical foundations.

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        by leftyparent on Mon Apr 13, 2009 at 01:56:33 PM PDT

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      •  Just as dangerous, (1+ / 0-)
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        and more of my personal objection, is the use of "God" as an excuse for inaction.  People don't die because "it's God's will", they die from accidents, diseases, old age.  If we accept the "God's will" reasoning, we abandon further exploration of science and other ways to improve and preserve life.

        They only call it class warfare when we fight back.

        by rb608 on Mon Apr 13, 2009 at 02:06:37 PM PDT

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        •  I see death in more developmental terms... (1+ / 0-)
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          Maybe people die when it best serves the further development of their consciousness

          Cooper Zale Los Angeles

          by leftyparent on Mon Apr 13, 2009 at 02:16:50 PM PDT

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