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  •  I don't see how they can stop it. I really don't. (1+ / 0-)
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    They are monitoring a huge Mississippi river of data. At any point, a word or a phrase could set off the red flag algorithm. That could happen thousands of times every day, considering the massive deluge of communications going back and forth over digital networks.

    When the flag goes off, how do you separate the wheat from the chaff? Well...obviously youre going to have read, or listen a bit more closely...probably for a few days to make sure. Are you gonna be filing for FISA warrants 1000s of times every day? Makes no sense.

    How much time does the NSA get to listen in on me before it feels there is reason enough to go get a warrant...and doesent that automatically violate my rights in the first place?

    This is exactly the kind of 21st Century law/technology ethical problem that many have long predicted.

    For security purposes, however, I don't see how you do anything but watch.

    With him from the beginning, with him until the end.

    by brooklynbadboy on Thu Apr 16, 2009 at 03:59:25 AM PDT

    •  We need to let go of the notion that the (3+ / 0-)
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      electron is going to be our salvation--put the whole globe on automatic, so we can just sit back and watch.

      The electron is an unreliable particle.  Rumsfeld started off promoting using real people to provide and collect intelligence, but that was a distraction.  The electronics industry has been working over-time to automate every aspect of social control and I don't even think their intent is nefarious.  Rather, the unreliability of the electron makes it an ideal product for the profit-motive-driven.  Electronic systems need to be constantly rebuilt and renewed just to keep a steady state.  They can claim "improvement" even if the result is that the new product doesn't deteriorate quite as fast.

      How do you tell a predator from a protector? The predator will eat you sooner rather than later.

      by hannah on Thu Apr 16, 2009 at 04:27:02 AM PDT

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        Heavy stuff, but I still ask: What do we do with the world as it exists today?

        Human intelligence? Obviously needed. But there is no way those with nefarious intentions will not use digital networks. Of course they will.

        With him from the beginning, with him until the end.

        by brooklynbadboy on Thu Apr 16, 2009 at 05:32:11 AM PDT

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    •  Centrifuge permanganate isotope Tegucigalpa. (4+ / 0-)

      The Fear Machine has been turned up to eight.

      by ben masel on Thu Apr 16, 2009 at 05:12:38 AM PDT

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