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  •  Not expanding a horrible program (20+ / 0-)

    is a good start. Let's not lose sight of the underlying problem, that the program allows any warrantless spying.

    •  How Do We KNOW Anything Has Been HALTED? (15+ / 0-)

      The insiders know what's going on but "We, the People..." are being kept in the dark.

      The Obama administration has been making arguments in court that go even farther than Bush did.

      Taking government official's word ALONE for andything is just so damn Bushite misrule-friendly.

      Publish the documents, stop fighting for secrecy in the courts and bring 'Change We Can Believe In' already.


      The Bushiter's Iraq 2004 - 1268 Dead, about 25K Medivacs and 9000 Maimed... It's the Bushiter Way, wasting other people's money and lives. And it's worse now.

      by RedMeatDem on Thu Apr 16, 2009 at 08:26:48 AM PDT

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    •  "no qualms about breaking the law" (2+ / 0-)
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      dqueue, KenBee

      People tend to forget that Obama was among the 69 Senators who voted to expand warrantless surveillance of virtually all international electronic communications.

      Most don't even realize that there is no longer any legal expectation of privacy when communicating across the U.S. border.

      It's not clear here whether the "overcollection" problem would violate current law.  Under previous Executive Order, certain categories of U.S. persons, such as high elected officials, were supposed to exempt from warrantless evesdroppiong.  It is unclear what the current rules are that govern such things, as they are classified.  

      Before the 2008 FISA Amendment, NSA used to be required in most cases to obtain a warrant to tap US person calls abroad.  But, that legal restriction has now been lifted.  That may have been the case here with the Congressional aide.

      The problem now is that that current law imposes virtually no legal restrictions on monitoring US persons international communications, and there are no qualms about following the law.

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