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  •  No. (0+ / 0-)

    But I don't think 300,000,000 person class action lawsuits is the answer either.

    The telecom companies should get immunity for cooperating with the government. Its just impractical to do it any other way. But at the same time, people should be given the option to either waive their right to privacy or not talk on the phone.

    I think that is a simple solution.

    With him from the beginning, with him until the end.

    by brooklynbadboy on Sat Apr 18, 2009 at 08:37:53 PM PDT

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    •  So anything the government asks a company (2+ / 0-)
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      to do, the company should just do?  Even if it's illegal? Is that really what you're saying?

      •  If companies want to work with the government (0+ / 0-)

        they should be able to choose to do so. However, with respect to personal information, the individual should be explicity informed that certain right will be waived should that become necessary.

        Now, the problem we have is the "offer you can't refuse" issue. In other words, if nobody chooses protect your information, you by default lose access to a valuable good.

        This is why I believe we need a privacy law in this country so that it is clearly understood who is able to do what with what. The current system is unworkable for all parties.

        With him from the beginning, with him until the end.

        by brooklynbadboy on Sat Apr 18, 2009 at 09:47:14 PM PDT

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        •  I'll agree we need stronger protections for our (2+ / 0-)
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          privacy, but companies should not be permitted to "cooperate with the government" when it is illegal to do so. Our government is not permitted to act capriciously, and companies or individuals cooperating with such behavior only encourages further law-breaking by the government.

          It's similar to the situation of a prosecutor asking me to lie on the witness stand. If I do, I am guilty of perjury and should be prosecuted, just as the prosecutor doing the asking.

          The proper thing for either the company or myself to do is report the law breaking and refuse cooperation.

          The rule of law is only enforced if we all take part in enforcing it. A Democracy requires an active and vigilant citizenry. And corporations do not act -- the people in them do.

        •  "Work with the government." (3+ / 0-)
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          mcmom, Foxwizard, James Kresnik

          You make it sound oh so innocuous.  Should the government ask a company to kill someone, that company is simply working with the government.  Should the government ask a company to go into a another country and do things that will potentially destabilize it, it is simply working with the government.

          Of course that company should be able to choose to do so.  But that doesn't mean that there should be no potential repurcussions for their choices.

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