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  •  Thanks. I'm deeply disturbed, but... (1+ / 0-)
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    brooklynbadboy I said in the letter, I do recognize the tremendous pressures he's under. I understand his rationale for his decision, I just think it's still wrong (unless, of course, he has some Secret Plan® that none of us know about, which is entirely possible).

    If you don't mind my asking, which part don't you agree with?

    •  I agree with the basic principles, (1+ / 0-)
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      Those who commit torture should be punished. I also agree that "i was only following orders" is not a legal or moral defense.

      My concerns have to do, however, with the more concrete concerns of human nature, cliques, and power. Like any tribe, the intelligence community is tight knit, and Obama is not a member of the tribe. I think he has no go with them for now.

      By refusing to prosecute those who have tortured, in spite of the overwhelming evidence of their crimes, you are setting a terrible precedent for the future.

      Presidents don't rule by precedent. They just rule. Obama could prosecute every single offender, and a new President could still come in and torture. The Commander-in-Chief war powers are interpreted with wide discretion. The way to stop is accountability at the top, not the bottom. It begins with the man who sits in the chair.

      would go a long way towards restoring our collective moral image both domestically and abroad. It is the right thing to do, even if you aren't able to get a single conviction (which I find unlikely).

      I disagree. I think an acquittal is not only a major hurt on our image, but I think its highly likely. Good luck finding a DC jury thats going to convict a CIA agent. Even with a conviction, the sentences are going to look very light in the Arab world.

      failing to prosecute what were clearly war crimes will reflect terribly on your character and the image of the United States.

      I agree. He is definitely going to take an international hit for protecting the CIA. I think its worth it for our overseas operatives to know that their president is fully behind them and will protect them.

      So to summarize, I just don't feel going after CIA officials is going to work. I do feel that going after the lawyers who wrote the memos is worthwhile, provided we approach it like a political campaign. I feel thats the best route to get to the principals: Cheney, Rumsfeld, Feith, and Wolfowitz, is through their lawyers.

      With him from the beginning, with him until the end.

      by brooklynbadboy on Fri Apr 17, 2009 at 07:58:32 PM PDT

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      •  I would be satisfied if... (1+ / 0-)
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        the Big Shots (Cheney/Rumsfeld/Feith/Wolfowitz/Yoo/etc) are convicted and sentenced.

        Hell, just seeing them actually on trial would almost be enough, even if the sentences were nominal or the convictions didn't go through.

        While I'd ideally like the book thrown at everyone involved in this sick chapter in our history, I can live with just the ones who started the madness going down.

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