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  •  I saw that. Huffpost should be shamed. Here's why (11+ / 0-)

    Measles SUCKS.

    A ProMED-mail post
    ProMED-mail is a program of the
    International Society for Infectious Diseases

    Date: Wed 22 Apr 2009
    Source: The Washington Post [edited]

    Area's 6th measles case
    A 6th case of measles has been reported in the Washington area, this time
    in Prince William County, the 1st sign of the disease in Virginia this year
    [2009]. The Virginia Department of Health announced the case yesterday [21
    Apr 2009], a day after DC [District of Columbia] officials reported finding
    the highly infectious disease in a District man who contracted it during a
    recent 3 week trip to India. There is no known link between the Virginia
    case and the others in the region, health officials said. The source of the
    measles virus in the Virginia resident has not been identified.

    Denise Sockwell, the Virginia Department of Health's epidemiologist for
    Northern Virginia, said the man "did not have a history of travel outside
    the United States." The Prince William resident works at the Harris Teeter
    in Tysons Corner, said Jennifer Thompson, director of communications for
    the supermarket chain. "The person is fine now," Thompson said, adding that
    the store sent voice mail messages yesterday [21 Apr 2009] to 1074
    customers who had shopped at the store during the man's shifts 10-14 Apr
    2009, alerting them to possible exposure. She said no other employees have
    contracted the disease, and the man has not returned to work.

    The man also visited several places [restaurants and stores] where
    unimmunized people might have been exposed, including a Safeway and
    7-Eleven in Woodbridge, an IHOP in Falls Church, and a CVS in Fairfax
    Station. People who think they might have measles should contact their
    doctor's offices before going in, Sockwell said, so that precautions can be
    taken to prevent others from being exposed.

    Measles germs can linger in the air [that is, in the environment - Mod.CP]
    for up to 2 hours, putting at risk people who have not been vaccinated. In
    the United States, that includes babies under one year old who are too
    young for the vaccine, people who have moved to the region from countries
    where the vaccine is not prevalent, and people who decide against getting
    it for religious or other reasons.

    People born before 1957, when the vaccine was not available, are generally
    considered to be immune because they are assumed to have contracted the
    disease as children, health officials said. "In those days, it was thought
    of as a disease of childhood," Sockwell said. According to the 2007
    Virginia Immunization Survey, 94 per cent of kindergarteners and 98 per
    cent of 6th graders in Virginia are vaccinated, she said.

    The virus spreads through coughing and sneezing. Most people fully recover,
    but it can lead to complications such as ear infections, pneumonia, and
    death. Symptoms include a rash, high fever, cough, runny nose, and red,
    watery eyes, which can start 7 to 21 days after exposure and last about a week.

    Six cases in a region in a short period is rare, Sockwell said, noting that
    before one reported case last year [2008], the state had not had a case in
    6 years.

    [byline: Tara Bahrampour]

    Joe Lieberman is a Chode.

    by dnamj on Wed Apr 22, 2009 at 04:23:51 PM PDT

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    •  oh, but the anti-vaccinationists won't have that (1+ / 0-)
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      To them it's a choice between either autism (which wasn't caused by the vaccines), or MMR (which are prevented by vaccines).

      What a load of bunk.

      •  You really need to put this off topic (1+ / 0-)
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        discussion about your feelings on vaccinations in an open thread or do another diary on it.

        Republicans are like alligators. All mouth and no ears.

        by Ohiodem1 on Wed Apr 22, 2009 at 04:49:27 PM PDT

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      •  Except that's not what the article on Huffpo says (4+ / 0-)
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        catleigh, prgsvmama26, Alohilani, siduri

        We have never argued that people shouldn't be immunized for the most serious threats including measles and polio, but surely there's a limit as to how many viruses and toxins can be introduced into the body of a small child. Veterinarians found out years ago that in many cases they were over-immunizing our pets, a syndrome they call Vaccinosis. It overwhelmed the immune system of the animals, causing myriad physical and neurological disorders. Sound familiar? If you can over-immunize a dog, is it so far out to assume that you can over-immunize a child? These forward thinking vets also decided to remove thimerosal from animal vaccines in 1992, and yet this substance, which is 49% mercury, is still in human vaccines. Don't our children deserve as much consideration as our pets?

        Also from the article:

        With vaccines being the fastest growing division of the pharmaceutical industry, isn't it possible that profits may play a part in the decision-making? That the vaccine program is becoming more of a profit engine than a means of prevention? In a world left reeling from the catastrophic effects of greed, mismanagement and corporate insensitivity, is it so absurd for us to wonder why American children are being given twice as many vaccines on average, compared to the top 30 first world countries?


        I read the entire article. I think he came off sounding reasonable, but that may be in part because I don't trust pharmaceutical companies to necessarily have our best interests at heart. They are in business to sell drugs. So I think the questions about if American kids really need 36 different vaccinations, including some that are given to one and two day old babies, really makes sense. I think the article is reasonably well argued, at least. Those who want to rebut it should do the same.  

        •  you should read my diary (3+ / 0-)
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          which does rebut Carrey's points.  The ones you've highlighted, in fact.

          I work for the pharmaceutical industry, as a researcher.  Not all of us are heartless profiteers.  I am interested only in getting the best evidence for my industry's drugs and treatments, and if the evidence shows that a drug doesn't work or is harmful, then the industry should report as such.  I could care less about profits.

          And yes, American kids DO need vaccinations against extremely dangerous infectious diseases.  I will not listen to anti-vaccine tripe that suggests vaccines cause autism because a) the best available evidence says that's bullshit, and b) the lack of vaccinations have been proven to cause widespread transmission of those infectious diseases.

          •  Ha, no better than a diary about the (3+ / 0-)
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            catleigh, CS in AZ, siduri

            wonders of Roundup by a Monsanto lobbyist.  You should have put this disclaimer in your diary.  You purposely misread Carrey's essay and made claims he does not make.  He and McCarthy have said they are not opposed to or recommending no one vaccinate.  They are saying that important research questions are being ignored for the sake of ever increasing profits.  A stand I agree with.  Hepatitis B in newborns with Hep B negative mothers is stupid.  Babies are four times more likely to have serious adverse reactions than to get Hep B around the time of birth.  But no one dare ask why we are giving a shot to every single newborn for an STD and if its a good idea.  I would rather not give Hep B to newborn babies and I would rather my kids get (as half of them now have) chicken pox than have the half assed vaccine that gives up working just as chicken pox gets more dangerous in the teen/young adult/first pregnancy for women years.  We have moved way past vaxing for life threatening disease like polio and diphtheria, pertussis, tentanus I received in the 70s and are trying to vax away the inconvenience of every disease out there.  There are 100 vaccines in the pipeline right now and no one studying whether or not vaccines can interact with each other or if there is a number at which the body can no longer cope with assimilating all of them without causing other unforeseen effects or if its even a good idea to try to prevent all disease, which has good effects on strengthening immune systems as well.  If your diary had been half as calm and half as rationally stated I might have given it more attention, but you purposely skewed Carrey's points from the get go so I quit reading halfway through.  You may have the right to pimp a pissy diary here, but that doesn't mean its worth visiting.

    •  This Really Pisses Me Off (2+ / 0-)
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      My son is not yet old enough to get vaccinated and now that the country seems to have lost its herd immunity, he's at risk.

      Thanks Jim.

      "I always found it interesting that people would cast aspersions on failure, as if it were a bad thing." -- Michael Steele, RNC Chairman

      by journeyman on Wed Apr 22, 2009 at 05:05:32 PM PDT

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    •  It's possible to be immunized and still be (0+ / 0-)

      vulnerable to the disease . . . when measles struck in WI this past winter, my sister in law and her mother (both work in the public schools) were tested for serelogical immunity.  Her mom, who had measles as a child, still had immunity.  My sister in law, who was immunized as a child and never had the disease, no longer had sufficient antibodies in her blood to confer immunity, so she had to go get a new shot.  It's another way the disease can spread, and if you work in an area where you could be exposed or suspect that you have been, then it's a good idea to actually check for immunity even if you've been vaccinated.

      "Going to church does not make us Christians any more than stepping into our garage makes us a car." --Rev R. Neville

      by catleigh on Thu Apr 23, 2009 at 06:32:22 AM PDT

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