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  •  Well (2+ / 0-)
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    milton333, pascal

    ... whether or not torture actually yielded accurate information in a given situation is beside the point.  We and the world have agreed that it's forbidden.

    "Unseen, in the background, Fate was quietly slipping the lead into the boxing glove." P.G. Wodehouse

    by gsbadj on Wed Apr 22, 2009 at 10:12:03 AM PDT

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    •  Yes of course, but a lingering question (4+ / 0-)
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      xerico, gsbadj, pascal, ms badger

      for me at least over the past few years was why in the hell they'd be taping those interrogations knowing that they were illegal.  They were like the burglars who video tape each other breaking into houses and then get caught with the tapes.  Now I think I have a better understanding of why they Bush Administration would risk having tapes of the interrogations - they intended to use them to bolster their case for war.

    •  Not beside the point (1+ / 0-)
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      gsbadj

      Motives matter.  The law recognizes shades of guilt--big difference between running someone over negligently and plotting murder.

      This new revelation is a game changer to me.

      It's one thing if they tortured "to keep America safe."

      They tortured in order to lie, in order to keep and abuse their power.

      •  I disagree (0+ / 0-)

        I don't think you torture anyone regardless of what they might know.

        "Unseen, in the background, Fate was quietly slipping the lead into the boxing glove." P.G. Wodehouse

        by gsbadj on Thu Apr 23, 2009 at 05:36:56 AM PDT

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