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  •  Lynddie England and Charles Graner (11+ / 0-)

    were painted as

    a few bad apples at the bottom of the barrel.

    Your question has resonated for years?  Do we really think a few "recycled hillbillies" (Sy Hersh's words) came up with this stuff on their own?

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    by Jesselyn Radack on Wed Apr 22, 2009 at 07:28:21 AM PDT

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    •  The chilling thing about Graner is that he was a (5+ / 0-)
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      prison guard, along with Ivan Frederick - who had worked at US prisons with notorious abuse (some might call it even, torture) histories. And that General from Utah whose name slips me at the moment - had been involved in the privatized prison business here, too...

      What goes around, comes around.

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      by bellatrys on Wed Apr 22, 2009 at 07:57:07 AM PDT

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    •  And what about "contract interrogators"...? (5+ / 0-)
      CIA abandons use of contract interrogators

      Besides the "bad apples" mention back then, I remember hearing about "contract employees" and "private security officers" (mercenaries) who were "rogues."  Now the CIA is going to stop using them....?

      Again, I've never heard of any cheerful send-offs or welcome home celebrations for anyone in the media for any US military person going to or coming home from Gitmo.  In a few articles I've read about Gitmo I remember reading the terms "private contractors" and CIA but no word on US military personnel.  So, just who was doing the torturing at Gitmo besides CIA and 'contract interrogators'...?  And in which jurisdiction can they be charged for their crimes...?  I think mercenaries in Iraq and Afghanistan got some kind of cover, but Gitmo wasn't mentioned.

      Bush/Cheney blew smoke up our collective ass about Gitmo being a no-man's-land where US laws don't apply... it's a US military base under a 99-year lease from Cuba (I remember talk about that during the Cuban missile crisis).  Whatever laws apply at all other US military bases at home or around the world must necessarily apply to Guantanamo, too.


      by NonnyO on Wed Apr 22, 2009 at 07:59:10 AM PDT

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