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  •  Effectiveness is irrelevant (2+ / 0-)
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    steve davis, Turbonerd

    Torture is profoundly wrong under all circumstances.

    The debate over its effectiveness is completely pointless. It doesn't matter. Not. One. Bit.

    "I think a basic principle of our Constitution is nobody above the law" -Obama

    by heart of a quince on Wed Apr 22, 2009 at 06:57:19 AM PDT

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    •  The 'effectiveness' of torture isn't the issue (1+ / 0-)
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      heart of a quince

      ... but that's what the neocons are clinging to. Even Dick "Dick" Cheney (unsupported) claims of the effectiveness of the program and his non-call for the release of the memos is all about diverting attention away from what we ALL know: torture is wrong.

      This hand-waving at "effectiveness" and vague threats that eliminating the program, or prosecuting those who designed and implemented it will somehow make America less safe, is all a smokescreen to divert attention from that simple, inescapable fact.

      I'm bipartisan. I'll hug your elephant if you'll kiss my ass.

      by Turbonerd on Wed Apr 22, 2009 at 07:52:50 AM PDT

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