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  •  You should always take precautions (9+ / 0-)

    because while incidence may be low for you, others may not be so lucky.

    I have kids, a 77 year old mother and a 94 year old grandmother.  If I get it, and give it to them, they would have a lot less chance of having a 'mild' case.

    Just because it hasn't killed many people here yet doesn't mean it won't.  Or the next one for that matter.

    Don't be a typhoid Mary.

    (-8.50, -7.54) Only the educated are free. -Epictetus

    by Tin hat mafia on Fri May 01, 2009 at 09:20:52 AM PDT

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    •  I'm concerned about getting it. My 81-year-old (5+ / 0-)

      Dad is going through chemo right now.  

      Hope, change win; Barack Obama, your time is now

      by hyper on Fri May 01, 2009 at 09:26:17 AM PDT

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    •  As I said to McJoan (0+ / 0-)

      this is an example of hysteria. Are you terrified of the endemic flu that kills 36,000 per year, or food poisoning that kills 5000? Maybe you have stopped driving your mom and grandmom around since 50,000 people are killed every year in car accidents. There is absolutely no cause for alarm about this outbreak.  This is just another example of media-driven hysteria. Of course, public health authorities should take sensible precautions, but it doesn't require any special action on your part.

      Ambition is when you follow your dreams. Insanity is when they follow you.

      by Batfish on Fri May 01, 2009 at 10:06:33 AM PDT

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      •  personally, I don't consider the use of (2+ / 0-)
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        hand sanitizer to be hysteria...

        I consider it to just be a mild precaution.  I am still going to fly with my kids next week.  I am not going all 'Michael Jackson' with the surgical mask in public.

        But by denying the possibility that this has a definite impact on others is like burying your head in the sand.

        If this spread pall mall, schools will close, and people will be forced to choose between their kids  care and their jobs.  That is another possible impact.

        This is not hysteria, we are simply looking at options that should be taken to prevent this thing from getting worse.

        (-8.50, -7.54) Only the educated are free. -Epictetus

        by Tin hat mafia on Fri May 01, 2009 at 10:31:19 AM PDT

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      •  It's not the potential deaths (4+ / 0-)

        It's the potential total volume of illness. 60% of that community in Mexico got it. What would your community look like if 60% of the population were sick at home? 60% of everybody, from doctors to delivery people?

        "People who have what they want are fond of telling people who haven't what they want that they really don't want it." Ogden Nash (on universal health care?)

        by Catte Nappe on Fri May 01, 2009 at 10:51:48 AM PDT

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        •  Hand sanitizer and N95 face masks... (3+ / 0-)

          ...could drop that 60% to 55%.  Small?  Yes.  But if it saves lives, who's the asshole in the end, the guy who told people who were careful they were hysteric, or the conscientious people who made an effort to reduce the spread of the disease?

          No on Prop 8::Sometimes I get to hitch a ride on the Democratic Bus--they let me stand on the back bumper.

          by steve04 on Fri May 01, 2009 at 11:06:26 AM PDT

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        •  Good point. but ours would look exactly like it (2+ / 0-)
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          does , because we live out in the woods.For most communities , that would be a really bad deal to have that high a percentage of people with a temporarily prostrating disease. As an added dish to what appears to be a rapidly increasing economic disaster , not a good thing at all.Epidemics, even with  low morbidity rates have a severe impact on affected areas.

      •  Do you do anything preventive in your life? (5+ / 0-)

        Your argument sounds like the republicans making fun of democrats for checking the tire pressure in their cars.  No, it won't give anyone free gas, but small changes that change the course of history by 2-3% do add up.  If they're cheap and painless, you're stupid not to take simple precautions.

        No on Prop 8::Sometimes I get to hitch a ride on the Democratic Bus--they let me stand on the back bumper.

        by steve04 on Fri May 01, 2009 at 11:05:12 AM PDT

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