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  •  You bet. That is one fun, cheesy video. (1+ / 0-)
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    There is some back-story about it in the Minutemen doc We Jam Econo.  For a low budget vid, it came off well.  Credit the energy of those three boys for that.

    Interesting Wiki stuff about how the song was inspired:

    Boon composed the song after a dispute with the boss of an auto parts store where he was employed. According to Michael Azerrad's book Our Band Could Be Your Life, Boon wanted to put a Los Angeles-area jazz/soul station on the radio, but his boss prevented him from doing so, calling the station's playlist "nigger shit". Boon was disgusted enough in his boss' attitude - as reflected in the lyric, "Hey mister, don't look down on me/For what I believe"' - to want to quit the job on the spot, but he needed the income at the time. So, as Azerrad put it in Our Band Could Be Your Life, "his frustration fueled a Minutemen classic."

    On the television screen were ballerinas.

    by bsmechanic on Sat May 02, 2009 at 11:07:20 PM PDT

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    •  That's cool! I never knew that. (2+ / 0-)
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      I bet that's a great book. I'll have to try and find it. Right now I'm reading Chris Connelly's book about his time in Rev Co. If you are a fan of his, it's a great read.

      This is so great because it reminds me of all the good times I had listening to all of these really cool bands. Minutemen, Fishbone, Black Flag, Decendants, etc, etc, etc. I could go on and on!

      Don't you just love how music can make us all instant friends?

      •  A bio of Chris Connelly??? I'm on it. (1+ / 0-)
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        Over fifteen years ago, my then-roommate and I were building our own "commercial" loft space, grooving on Phenobarb Bambalam (actually, roomie had complaints about him sounding too much like Bowie).

        Also, I met Chris Connelly a few years ago at Reckless Records in Chicago, after (oddly) having picked up a replacement copy of his CD two weeks prior.  Very nice fellow.  I saw him a month later, playing an acoustic set... usually not my thing, but his selections off Phenobarb played well.

        Fishbone, Black Flag, Descendants.  Yes, yes, and yes.  And RevCo, those irreverent goddamn sons-of-bitches!  And the Dead Kennedys, Naked Raygun, PIL, The Stranglers, Buzzcocks (could go on and on, as well).

        Yes, I do :-)

        On the television screen were ballerinas.

        by bsmechanic on Sat May 02, 2009 at 11:59:37 PM PDT

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        •  How did the loft space end up? (1+ / 0-)
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          Get on it! It's worth it! And when you're finished, I want a full book report on what you think so we can compare notes! For me the best parts are when he's talking about what a son-of-a bitch Al Jourgensen is. Talented, but a son-of-a bitch nonetheless. HA! They really are irreverent goddamned sons-a-bitches!

          Holy shit! So jealous! I'd love to meet Chris Connelly -I'm sure he's very nice. Acoustic or not, whatever the man touches is just musical genius I think.

          Oh dolly - preaching to the choir on these bands! I have to say, I think we're very much on the same wavelength here. You can probably read my mind! Subhumans, Fear, UK Subs....

          Pretty sure we're BFF's now!

          •  Ehh... we were only there for a year. (1+ / 0-)
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            Our construction consisted of basic drywall-on-aluminum-studs, with some electrical feeds.  It was a fun year, though.  Lots of artists/craftspeople/musicians living in that building (along with thieves and a felon or two, different story).

            And yourself, you have been in on a loft building construction??  I'll gladly take notes for the sake of doing it better next time.

            Very true, on Connelly's genius.  It definitely influenced the two Ministry albums that preceded Psalm 69 (where he was less visible).

            Is the bio you mentioned entitled Concrete, Bulletproof, Invisible, and Fried?  I just checked it out on Amazon, and it lists around $80 and change.  It can't be right.  Can it?

            Ha!  I was going to list UK Subs.  Still mourning the loss of my Subs Standards vinyl.

            On the television screen were ballerinas.

            by bsmechanic on Sun May 03, 2009 at 01:04:07 AM PDT

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            •  But probably one of the funnest and funniest (1+ / 0-)
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              years ever I hope. Some of the best time come from things like that. The best and funniest stories often come from when you had some shady character around you. As long as you come out unscathed it's usually alright..

              No - I'm not in on the construction of a lost, just know what it is like to have one to live in. My dad's apartment has a loft that I did a lot of living in, but sadly I can't give you any advice on the construction of one. If I ever hear of any, I'll let you know.

              That is indeed the title. Don't spend too much at Amazon though - I saw the same thing. This where I bought mine...http://991.com/ They are out of the UK but it was inexpensive and FAST shipping. I paid about 20 dollars for it. If you can't find it there let me know and I will try to find a copy for you. If all else fails, I will let you borrow mine.

              •  Yeah, you could say that about 1993... errk. (1+ / 0-)
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                As in, "about a third of my freakin' lifetime ago!"  haha! ... umm, thanks for asking.  It was the year I moved to Chicago so I could play bass in a working band.  I'm fortunate to have a few photos from them times.

                You are very kind to offer to loan me your copy of the book.  Just be careful, you never know who amongst the anonymous online community is a serial book thief.  Then again, it happens in real life, with real former roommates who just may have packed my UK Subs album in with their own vinyl collection (sniff).  That's the theory, anyways.  

                I just checked the 991 link.... they have the same funny description as on Amazon:

                when Al Jourgensen recruited Connelly as singer, the young Scottish lad could hardly have imagined the mayhem that was to ensue

                Can we have a film biography on this???  Maybe Billy Connolly can play the part of Chris Connelly's grandfather, or something.  Seriously, it would make a great story.

                On the television screen were ballerinas.

                by bsmechanic on Sun May 03, 2009 at 08:14:28 AM PDT

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                •  Hey what can I say (1+ / 0-)
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                  when you find a kindrid spirit, you just have to offer them your Chris Connelly books. Those are chances you just have to take I guess right? All the books I have lost, I just have to hope that they ended up in good homes! Just like lost UK Subs albums. So let me know - serious!

                  I'd love to see those pics! I bet that was one of the best time of your life! Are you still in Chicago?

                  You're so right - that would make a great film! I'd go see it ten million times. But who could we get arrogant enough to play Al?

                  •  Johnny Depp comes to mind, immediately, (1+ / 0-)
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                    for physical appearance, not necessarily arrogance.  Or a younger Kris Kristofferson.  I'm not really up on the newer actors.  Who amongst this younger generation has the chops to play Al?  (I beseech thee...)

                    Still in Chicago, aye.  The pics aren't ready-for-the-web, I'd have to get them scanned.. along with a thousand others.  You definitely got me sparked to pursue that project, once I can afford a scanner.

                    I'll take you up on your offer, many thanks!  Meantime, I'm going to check out some of the better used book stores in my area to see if they might have it.  Who knows, maybe I'll run into Chris again... ha!  That's be a hoot:  "Well hello there, (bsmechanic), I see that you have a copy of my bio."  Autograph?  Yep!.. that is, with the foresight to have a pen on hand, and the will to avoid dropping the book in shock.  He really is that cool.

                    On the television screen were ballerinas.

                    by bsmechanic on Sun May 03, 2009 at 10:16:02 AM PDT

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                    •  Not bad, not bad at all (1+ / 0-)
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                      Johnny Depp is a good call. He could put on wigs just like Al does, according to our man Connelly. He's a good actor so he could pull off arrogant. You're right though - Al is a tough one....

                      Once you get the pics ready - I really want to see them! Are you sad that you're still in Chicago? I would think that it would be awesome in a place like that, is it not?

                      I'm glad you will! If you can't find it, let me know. I really will let you borrow mine. How cool would that be, you're like "Hey Chris, what's up, sign my book?" Weird I already have a Sharpie uncapped...I'm sure he is that cool...he's Chris Connelly....

                      •  Actually glad to have lived in the same area for (0+ / 0-)

                        so long.  I moved quite a bit in my early years, and man, that gets to be a drag after a while.

                        Sometimes I get tired of the city (nature boy, at heart).  Having said that, I had a nice walk today, ran into someone who I hadn't seen in a while, and that was bonus.  Though the Connelly book remains undiscovered, I got some good leads from the folks at Myopic Books.  If I fall short here, I will take you up on your generous offer.

                        Going full circle to the diary topic ("What's Your Music?" totally applies here!); pending loft photos, here's a video of an improv project that was shot in a basement loft space in the same building, where many excellent parties and jam sessions took place.  You could call this style "acoustic industrial grunge", I reckon!

                        On the television screen were ballerinas.

                        by bsmechanic on Sun May 03, 2009 at 03:55:56 PM PDT

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            •  More to say! (1+ / 0-)
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              It's too bad that Ministry didn't keep Connelly in the fold - they would probably still be making albums, but what can you say?

              You really were going to mention UK Subs?! Wow!

              What happened to your Vinyl?

              •  I really was going to mention the Subs. (1+ / 0-)
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                It's a cause/effect thing.  You mentioned certain bands, and the song Stranglehold came to mind; up-tempo, catchy vocal chorus, rapid-fire bass line, and all.

                Top o' the Sunday morning to you (tips coffee mug), red mittens.  Can I call you Red?  Great typing at you, sharing musical recollections... and yes we can go on about music all day! :-)

                On the television screen were ballerinas.

                by bsmechanic on Sun May 03, 2009 at 08:24:53 AM PDT

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                •  I know! Now that we've opened (1+ / 0-)
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                  the floodgates, all these bands and songs just keep coming over me! It's AWESOME!

                  Top of the morning to you! You can call me Red - it would be an honor and a pleasure.

                  My favorite memories usually revolve around something regarding music, so don't get me started on going on ALL DAY, because I will! You'll end up being sorry that you started talking to me!

                  I'm going to go out on a limb here and tell you that I have tickets to TKK in a few weeks and see if that matters to you....fingers crossed.....

                  •  Right on, Red. Please call me BS, (1+ / 0-)
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                    or "mechanic", when attempting to call my BS! ;-)

                    Argh... sorry.  I am not up-to-date on ThrillKillKult, though it's dimes-to-a-dollar that I've heard at least a couple of their tunes.  It shouldn't diminish my wish that you have a great time at the show.  

                    Musical interests being all over the map (punk, industrial, some mainstream, and even Ennio Morricone soundtracks), I like the energy of industrial.  Especially for some of the memories ... ah, memoriesssss... invoked by a few tunes.  Never was really a clubber, but when I got dancing...:

                    *KMFDM-Split.

                    *Nitzer Ebb-the one that goes "muscle and hate..."

                    *Supernaut-1000 Homo DJ's.  With Trent Reznor?  Yee-hah!

                    *NIN-say, what has happened to Trent?  Probably my favorite of the industrial genre.

                    OK, the sunshine and fresh air calls.  Glad to yak with you, Red!  Catch you later.

                    On the television screen were ballerinas.

                    by bsmechanic on Sun May 03, 2009 at 10:35:41 AM PDT

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                    •  Please do catch me later! (0+ / 0-)

                      If not on this thread, feel free to shoot me an email - you might laugh at the address if you're at least familiar with TKK, which you are. I'll let you know how the show is but hopefully I'll chat with you before that.

                      I love it all over the place! It wouldn't be as fun if it wasn't, right. Right next to my industrial and punk albums is Sinatra, talk about all over the map!

                      Don't get me started on the club memories!!

                      bs, YOU ARE SPEAKING MY LANGUAGE! KMFDM, etc...

                      Enjoy your day bs! For sure catch me later, I've really loved yakking with you!! I hope I haven't heard the last of you because we have so much else to discuss!

                      •  Will do. (1+ / 0-)
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                        I'll get you on the email, amigo, and will keep an eye out for you on the streets of Kosville.

                        Parting note: as my CD's are organized alphabetically by artist, my Sinatra disc has Simon and Garfunkel to the left, and Siouxsee to the right.

                        Enjoy the rest of your day as well, Red!

                        On the television screen were ballerinas.

                        by bsmechanic on Sun May 03, 2009 at 04:03:36 PM PDT

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