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  •  You are correct, of course. (1+ / 0-)
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    Not to mince words, but not assuming they will be around is not the same as assuming they will be gone.

    (And, I still disagree on the hanging, mainly because I'm opposed to the state killing people in general. Also, because it ensures a gigantic backlash from the right. But I take it you're not being entirely serious on this proposition, rather a bit provocatice, no?)

    "Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. (...) Labor is superior to capital, and deserves much the higher consideration." Abraham Lincoln

    by aufklaerer on Mon May 04, 2009 at 02:30:12 AM PDT

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    •  no deadly serious here death IS the penalty (1+ / 0-)
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      under law... they ordered the torturing of other human beings and that resulted in the death BY torture of one of them.  That alone gets you the needle.. but on top of that they also broke the worst possible law on any book anywhere:

      A war of aggression, the result of which is the death and maiming of over a million human beings.  And it is looking like that part of the torture was done to provide make the launching of that war possible.

      I too am in general no longer in favor of the death penalty, but this rises to the level of crime that I must put aside my distaste for it.  And a million dead and maimed rises to that.  The death of a single human being by torture rises to that.

      My opposition to the death penalty though does not come from a belief that the State should not have that power but rather that it is nearly impossible to 100% sure of guilt.

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