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  •  there is more than you think (5+ / 0-)

    to the civil war. If you think it was just slavery then you would be wrong. I am not defending the war between the states, but I will say that you condemn people who you have no clue about. Ask the Irish about their form of slavery in the north. Ask the sharecropers about having to ship his crop north to be milled. Reconstruction was a mess, and nothing like what Lincoln wanted. Lincoln wanted reconcellation not reconstruction. I had family on both sides, hint... Lee and Davis are part of our family's LAST Names. While Black is another LAST name. I remember the paraphrase of Lee when the Confed was formed. He spoke about how he regretted what was happening but his first loyality was to Virginia. Back then it was the states that had the loyality in the south, not the union of the states. I am sure I will get flamed on this comment.

    I don't care what you do in your beds, just keep your hand out of my pocket.

    by the mom in the middle on Mon May 04, 2009 at 06:55:20 PM PDT

    •  You won't get flamed from me (4+ / 1-)
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      Milton Fine

      While slavery was a central issue, as you said it wasn't the only one.  Long simmering resentment towards the North, about the concept of a Union and yes -- slavery -- which was not only a human rights issue, but, sadly, an economic one.

      There were a ton of fuck ups in the North and when you read the histories you wonder how on earth Lincoln preserved the Union.  Robert E. Lee is one of the men I most admire from that period.  He was both obviously a Southern officer/gentleman and much, much more complex.

      They tortured people to get false confessions to fraudulently justify our invading Iraq.

      by gchaucer2 on Mon May 04, 2009 at 07:07:14 PM PDT

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    •  Not flamed, but I think that both people from the (1+ / 0-)
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      South and North have fairly romanticized and rewritten the reasons for the civil war. I have come to believe that I will never know the truth about it, because everyone has an agenda. People from the North think it was a righteous war to free the slaves--except the emancipation proclamation was not signed until well into the war. People from the South think it was a righteous battle for states rights--yeah right.

      I bet it was started by a bar fight or something, or maybe a bet between two generals. Who knows.

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