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  •  We'd have over 6000 reps in TX with that (7+ / 0-)

    level of representation.

    •  Texas Senate is Scary (4+ / 0-)
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      neroden, Gemina13, JesseCW, csquared

      Texas state senators actually represent more people than Congressional Reps. do.  Texas only has 31 state senators with a state population of over 23,000,000.

      •  similar with California (4+ / 0-)
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        tmo, neroden, Gemina13, csquared

        Each California state Senator now has districts with nearly a million people.  (40 Senators, a population around 38 million.)

        •  Who's against expanding the legislature? (2+ / 0-)
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          tmo, neroden

          I guess the legislature is, since it would dilute their votes.  Good lord, California is an ungovernable trainwreck.

          You know someone named Arsenio Billingham? No.

          by Mikey on Wed May 06, 2009 at 04:56:14 PM PDT

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          •  California: direct democracy has been tried (1+ / 0-)
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            neroden

            and does not work. The state's ungovernable in large part because the legislature is hamstrung by the cumulative effects of ill-conceived initiatives voted upon and passed by a misled and befuddled public.

            And we don't have secure individual rights because the constitution can be amended by simple majority of the popular vote. Our 19th-century predecessors were a little unclear on the concept of a constitution.

            •  well... (0+ / 0-)

              My thought on Cali, and I used to live in Pasadena (oh, how I miss L.A....) is that the historical frame is one of racial caste system breakdown.

              Whites who insist on being the privileged caste/group have gone from supermajority to majority to plurality to blocking minority in the state.  Along the way, their politicians rigged the state government rules to maximize their power.

              The end is nearing, I think.  But there doesn't seem to be quite the political will, shared understanding and priorities, willing elected officials, and unity to really change the setup yet.  The rigging is still working.

              •  The system in California (1+ / 0-)
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                C S McCrum

                actually arose as an attempt to reduce the extreme corporate influence on the legislature that existed in the early 20th century. The biggest problem with it as it stands now is that it takes only a simple majority to enact spending programs, but a supermajority to raise money for them.

                There is nothing so practical as a good theory—Kurt Lewin

                by ebohlman on Wed May 06, 2009 at 10:48:55 PM PDT

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