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  •  it takes a long time (none)
    to get laws passed and get systems changed.  Especially when there is lots of resistance to making this process transparent (e.g. no paper trail for Diebold machines).  Even then, we don't get it right (e.g. the so-called "Help America Vote Act").

    By the way, we don't have 3+ years to get this changed.  Try less than 2.

    Reclaiming the "L" word for America!

    by billlaurelMD on Fri Nov 12, 2004 at 03:21:45 PM PST

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    •  Correct (1.00)
      But understand what David Boies is saying....the democrats are dead set against massive reform just like the republicans.  They both cheat, they both know they cheat and that the other guy is cheating but neither is sure who is cheating more.  

      What we should be able to guarantee is 1 vote, 1 person.  This wouldn't be difficult and IMO is where most of the fraud is currently.  The only way to effectively guarantee your vote isn't being "stolen" is to give up your anonymity.  There is NO other way around it.  Please realize that.  

      •  Clarification... (none)
        By "give up anonymity" do you mean "give up secret ballot"?

        If there's a paper trail, there's no reason ballots can't be secret.  Two things are needed tho' -- one is that you are actually able to see the vote you made on the paper that makes up the paper trail, the second is an accurate record of the number of ballots cast.

        A good check would be to have votes counted at the precinct level -- small number and bi-partisan monitoring make it harder to cheat there, and the sheer number of precincts would make a massive fraud effort less likely.

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