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  •  How is that weak ground? (1+ / 0-)
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    He voted in favor of apartheid and supported P.W. Botha whose racism was not a secret.

    •  I Would Say It's Clear Cheney Doesn't (2+ / 0-)
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      otto, Arken

      CARE about racism.  In other words if in his twisted sith brain it's in the best interest of the United States to align with racists, he'd do it without a second thought.  In very much the same way that pretty much every President we've ever had has cozied up with the misogynist Saudi Arabia without necessarily hating women.

      Beyond that this diary says Cheney wanted to kill Iraqis for racist reasons... more specifically that he "wanted them annihiliated."  Weak ground.

      If spittle & tooth=vigor & youth Bill-O & Savage won't grow any older If wishes & dreams=bitches & beams We'll all live in skyscrapers bu

      by TooFolkGR on Mon May 11, 2009 at 07:00:37 AM PDT

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      •  I think you are misreading. (2+ / 0-)
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        I think the implication is that Cheney was okay with killing lots of Iraqis because he doesn't value the lives of brown people as much as he does white people, not that he wanted to kill them because they are brown.

        •  You are exactly right. (2+ / 0-)
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        •  It's Hard For Me To Read (0+ / 0-)

          "He wanted them annihiliated" any other way.

          I don't believe ANYBODY EVER wanted Iraqi Civilians annihiliated.  I believe that we had plenty of folks that didn't care if they were in the way of national interests, but when you take it to the next level and say anyone desired their annihiliation I'm not on board anymore.

          I respect the alternate interpretation though.

          If spittle & tooth=vigor & youth Bill-O & Savage won't grow any older If wishes & dreams=bitches & beams We'll all live in skyscrapers bu

          by TooFolkGR on Mon May 11, 2009 at 07:06:50 AM PDT

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        •  I don't believe Cheney values any life, (1+ / 0-)
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          but his own, and I there is not doubt in my mind he'd invade Great Britain if he thought it politically advantageous, and he believed could get away with it.

          I think politics - specifically republican party politics, social classes, and money have a lot more to do with Cheney's decision making process that skin color does.

          "It is through disobedience that progress has been made, through disobedience and through rebellion." Oscar Wilde, 1891

          by MichiganGirl on Mon May 11, 2009 at 07:21:12 AM PDT

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        •  I think Cheney sees the world in terms of power (0+ / 0-)

          He is only concerned with power and how someone with power is bound to exercise it in a way that maintains that power.  It is most likely irrelevant who holds the power, he just believes that you do what you have to do to maintain power.  If that means supporting racists, so be it.

          To me a story like this is interesting, because it discusses the idea that someone can be considered a terrorist at one point, and then when power happens to change hands, those same people are now no longer considered terrorists.  Which day did they stop being terrorists exactly? Was it a Wednesday that they were all of a sudden not terrorists?  

          The lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging and kicking them into obedience.

          by otto on Mon May 11, 2009 at 07:41:37 AM PDT

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