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  •  Well, I like Obama and hope he does (0+ / 0-)

    a good job on this.

    But, so far he's decide to protect the torturers of the previous administration and withhold from WE THE PEOPLE some (but, thankfully, no all) of the information and evidence of wrongdoing.

    Of course, if he prosecutes the criminals, renounces torture and restores justice, nobody will be happier than me.

    But, I can't take that on trust. I can only judge actions. And, so far, I'm not liking what I see from Obama regarding torture.

    But I have hope...

    When a government violates the unalienable rights of the people, it loses its legitimacy.

    by Rayk on Thu May 14, 2009 at 09:29:04 AM PDT

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    •  Releasing the photos... (0+ / 0-)

      will not move the AG any closer to prosecuting torture enablers...

      Obama - Real Leadership for a Real Change

      by dvogel001 on Thu May 14, 2009 at 09:31:39 AM PDT

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      •  Well, then shame on US if, after (0+ / 0-)

        seeing the disgusting evidence, the American people don't DEMAND justice.

        But I'd like to judge the American people AFTER they've seen this evidence. Not before.

        When a government violates the unalienable rights of the people, it loses its legitimacy.

        by Rayk on Thu May 14, 2009 at 09:34:56 AM PDT

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        •  They can't be any worse than... (0+ / 0-)

          Abu Grabe (sp?)

          Obama - Real Leadership for a Real Change

          by dvogel001 on Thu May 14, 2009 at 09:37:44 AM PDT

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          •  Well, then we've all failed. And America (0+ / 0-)

            stands for nothing and has no ideals.

            We'll commit any evil based on our own cowardice and fear.

            Might as well put Cheney in the White House. At least he'll commit evil without equivocation and won't pretend he gives a sh!t about justice.

            When a government violates the unalienable rights of the people, it loses its legitimacy.

            by Rayk on Thu May 14, 2009 at 09:40:07 AM PDT

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            •  Our actions and preventing... (0+ / 0-)

              torture in the future is what is important...not just getting a bunch or sensational pictures on CNN for the world to see more of the same bad stuff that happened under GWB...

              America is great and stands for a lot of greatness despite our flaws...

              Obama - Real Leadership for a Real Change

              by dvogel001 on Thu May 14, 2009 at 09:44:17 AM PDT

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              •  Agreed. If we can get justice without those (0+ / 0-)

                photos, I'd be plenty happy.

                But so far, Obama has been (in effect) protecting the torturers by opposing prosecution.

                It's possible, however slightly, that these photos...if published...might actually move the American people to DEMAND prosecutions of those responsible for torture.

                It might now. And, if so, well the shame would belong to the American people, too.

                When a government violates the unalienable rights of the people, it loses its legitimacy.

                by Rayk on Thu May 14, 2009 at 09:47:02 AM PDT

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