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  •  I have seen the poll (3+ / 0-)
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    I must say the questions are really vague.  For instance if you oppose abortion in all cases except rape incest, danger to the life of the mother, you very well may answer "legal in only a few circumstances," even though in the current political debate that would make you squarely anti-abortion.  Similarly, if you believe that health of the mother should be included in the consideration and you define health as anything that can cause physical or mental pain (no matter how minor), you may also answer "legal in only a few circumstances," even though on the polictical spectrum you would be squarely pro-choice.  So you have this question where two people with almost polar opposite views would answer the same way.

    •  A strong point (2+ / 0-)
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      My burning question is the one they did not ask this year but asked the year before: Should Roe v Wade be overturned?

      Separately, my moment of clarity here was the clear evidence that the equating of "pro-life" with "anti-legal abortion" is false and misleading.  And the poll and comments here help me understand that better.  And if I worked in news, not only would that be my angle, but it would be my reminder every time a politician or talking head tried to exchange the two stances.

      My headline would be:

      Stunning Study Show Half of "Pro-Lifers" Actually are "Pro-Legal Abortion"

      A Gallup poll released Friday, May 15, indicated that while 51% of respondents identified as "pro-life," only 23% of the respondents felt abortion should be "illegal under any circumstance."

      While the poll results showed "pro-life" responses outnumbering "pro-choice" for the first time since 1995, the number of respondents supporting legal abortion remained an overwhelming 73%, falling 6 percentage points from this time last year.

      I do not want to see the pro-legal abortion numbers falling AT ALL, but I am glad to see the dialogue is not as all-or-nothing as it has been presented.

      If you don't like change, you're going to like irrelevance even less. - Gen. Eric Shinseki

      by dmitcha on Sun May 17, 2009 at 01:28:25 PM PDT

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      •  Well, asking the Roe question (1+ / 0-)
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        without explanation would also be somewhat misleading.  Plenty of people assume that overturning Roe means that abortion would become immediately illegal.  Of course, that is not so.  It would simply allow that question to be settled in a political forum.  (For the purposes of this discussion it is irrelevant whether or not that is a good thing).

        So again, if you don't know any better, you may answer "no," for fear that all abortion would become instantly illegal.  

        •  drilling it down to (0+ / 0-)

          Do you think abortion should be illegal in all circumstances?

          Which may be why they rephrased the question between 2008 and 2009, acknowledging that the lack of definition for circumstances still allows for disparate stances to select the same answer.

          If you don't like change, you're going to like irrelevance even less. - Gen. Eric Shinseki

          by dmitcha on Sun May 17, 2009 at 01:37:04 PM PDT

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          •  Agreed. (1+ / 0-)
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            That's why I prefer polls that ask more detailed questions.  E.g.,

            - Do you believe minors seeking abortion should obtain parental consent/notification? (2 separate questions).

            - Do you believe that married women seeking abortion should obtain spousal consent/notification?

            - Do you believe that women should be able to obtain abortion when the sole reason for it is desire not to have a child?

            - Do you believe that government should pay for elective abortion?

            - Do you believe that women should be able to obtain abortion in cases of rape?

            - Do you believe that lack of financial means to raise the child is a legitimate reason to obtain abortion?

            Etc.

            This way we would know (imperfectly) where the lines of support/opposition lie.  But asking a very broad question along the Gallup lines means pretty much nothing.

            •  A new poll - draft 1 (0+ / 0-)
              1. What is your stance on legal abortion? (please choose only one)
              - I believe abortion should be legal in all circumstances
              - I believe abortion should be illegal in all circumstances
              - I believe abortion should be legal in some circumstances (please continue below)

              1. If "some circumstances," please indicate in which circumstances you support legal abortion (check all that apply)
              - Any women over the age of 18
              - Any child under the age of 18 who has obtained parental consent
              - Any child under the age of 18 who has granted consent
              - Victims of rape
              - Victims of molestation
              - A woman for whom childbirth endangers her life - Terms before the 13th week
              - Terms before the 25th week
              - Other (please indicate)

              Then a poll of demos, perhaps by gender, income level, ethnicity, religion, frequency of church attendance, region, political party and age.

              If you don't like change, you're going to like irrelevance even less. - Gen. Eric Shinseki

              by dmitcha on Sun May 17, 2009 at 01:59:58 PM PDT

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