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  •  And for anyone who reads this thread (0+ / 0-)

    Since you are not seeming to be open to fact that flies in the face of your inexplicable anger at fellow proponents of Roe v Wade,

    Barack Obama is an original co-sponsor of legislation to expand access to contraception, health information and preventive services to help reduce unintended pregnancies. Introduced in January 2007, the Prevention First Act will increase funding for family planning and comprehensive sex education that teaches both abstinence and safe sex methods. The Act will also end insurance discrimination against contraception, improve awareness about emergency contraception, and provide compassionate assistance to rape victims.

    This is for anyone who, like me, thought it bizarre to make such a statement about Obama without a simple Google first.

    At some point, I really must ask everyone to just look up information that can easily be found.  Or at least be open to be corrected (as I just was)!

    If you don't like change, you're going to like irrelevance even less. - Gen. Eric Shinseki

    by dmitcha on Sun May 17, 2009 at 03:43:33 PM PDT

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    •  Thanks for the information (0+ / 0-)

      I had never heard of that bill.

      But there you go again - "inexplicable anger"  !!!!!

      You're the one who said to me above that I don't know you --- Well, think about it, why do you presume that I am angry rather than discussing something that I have opinions about?  

      •  In the event that question is literal (0+ / 0-)

        Here is why I received (rather than presumed, since it was based on specific and concrete interaction rather than whole conjecture) your tone as angry.  I have boldfaced for words, syntax or punctuation that connoted anger to me:

        What does birth control have to do with contraception?

        I bet Obama wouldn't bring up birth control EXCEPT in regard to abortion.  I bet he would not counsel even one person to carry a pregnancy to term and give the child away for adoption.  He's a deep thinker; he wouldn't want to be responsible for that woman's lifelong fears, worries and longing for the child she gave away.

        Thats why I see it as just pander, i.e., that Obama wants everyone to like him.

        There is no "common ground."

        No doubt you believe yourself to be a well-meaning person but that "sad consequences" phrase is actually a creepy intrusion on the privacy of other people.  It is not up to you to find their situations "sad."  They are just living their lives with a right not to be moralized over by you or the President or other well-meaners.  It probably hurts your feelings to say that but its the essence of America for some of us.  

        As I said above, I do not think President Obama would ever bring up contraception EXCEPT in the context of abortion.  If he thinks contraception is a good thing, then he could advocate for it with no reference to abortion.  But he would not do that.

        But there you go again - "inexplicable anger"  !!!!!

        If you don't like change, you're going to like irrelevance even less. - Gen. Eric Shinseki

        by dmitcha on Sun May 17, 2009 at 04:13:24 PM PDT

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        •  Thats not anger (0+ / 0-)

          Its discussion; its my opinion.  I think its very civil and polite whereas your responses began attacking me personally as "sad" and then as "inexplicably angry."  

          •  Discussion and opinion (0+ / 0-)

            form your intent and your content.  Tone is separate, and that is what I responded to.  And to intentionally parse, I did not describe you as sad or angry, I described something that you expressed as such.  (It is the difference between telling a child "You are a bad kid" and "That was a bad thing you did.")  Still, if you considered your writing to be polite but my writing to be a personal attack, our communication is so far apart that we will agree to disagree.

            If you don't like change, you're going to like irrelevance even less. - Gen. Eric Shinseki

            by dmitcha on Sun May 17, 2009 at 06:13:59 PM PDT

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