Skip to main content

View Diary: Gallup "Pro-Life" Abortion Poll: MSM Fudges Results (POLL) (82 comments)

Comment Preferences

  •  Very good question: As a man, do I have control (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    dmitcha

    over my own body? I would say that in all kinds of ways, none of us has complete control over our bodies under law--in fact, the government mediates our bodies in a broad variety of ways. As a man specifically, I am still subject to the military draft. Under certain circumstances, that could be a matter of life or death. To refuse to serve would subject me to imprisonment as it did to thousands of men during the Vietnam War. Likewise, a much higher proportion of men, particularly minorities, are incarcerated. The black male body could be considered the most restricted body in the U.S., the consequence of racism, unequally applied drug laws, and a profitable private prison system.

    In daily life, there all kinds of regulations on the body. I'm not allowed to trespass on private property, even those public places owned by corporations. It is increasingly difficult to even photograph corporate buildings because they claim control of that right even if I'm on public land. I have no right to drive an automobile. I am granted the privilege of doing so by the state. I'm restricted in myriad ways from expressing my sexuality, as we all are.

    In reality, we have control over our bodies within a fairly limited sphere. This isn't an argument against women having the right to terminate a pregnancy. I'm 100% in favor of that and always have been. I'm just saying that claiming the right to control over our own bodies may not be the most persuasive argument for keeping abortion safe and legal.

    I never liked you and I always will.

    by Ray Blake on Sun May 17, 2009 at 04:18:45 PM PDT

    [ Parent ]

    •  interesting, the draft issue (0+ / 0-)

      I hope we never see another draft, but I don't know that it will survive as single-sex without court challenge.  Even the no-women-in-combat issue surprises to me.  But from what I have read, it's men who don't think women should be drafted or in combat.  So they condemn themselves to being the only ones in that situation.  It is odd, the chauvinism that costs one's own so dearly...

      If you don't like change, you're going to like irrelevance even less. - Gen. Eric Shinseki

      by dmitcha on Sun May 17, 2009 at 04:27:50 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  If there is another draft and women are approved (0+ / 0-)

        for combat, they will likewise relinquish their right to control their bodies from the age of 18 on (selective service registration is still required for males). And I doubt it's just men (soldiers actually) who have qualms about that. Most parents would still feel better about their sons being drafted and put in harm's way than their daughters. Remember that in a military draft, you're legally required to sign up on your 18th birthday and after that you're potential cannon fodder. If Americans started seeing young women's bodies blown up by roadside bombs and eviscerated, how would they react? We're conditioned to seeing that happen to male soldiers, but we tend to have a greater sense of horror when it's a woman. Maybe that will change, who knows.

        I never liked you and I always will.

        by Ray Blake on Sun May 17, 2009 at 04:56:56 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  agreed - selective service (0+ / 0-)

          hits home every year when I have to counsel young men that they will not qualify for govt based financial aid if they have not registered.

          If you don't like change, you're going to like irrelevance even less. - Gen. Eric Shinseki

          by dmitcha on Sun May 17, 2009 at 05:59:12 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

Subscribe or Donate to support Daily Kos.

  • Recommended (174)
  • Community (70)
  • Baltimore (50)
  • Civil Rights (42)
  • Bernie Sanders (39)
  • Culture (34)
  • Elections (26)
  • Law (26)
  • Economy (25)
  • Education (23)
  • Freddie Gray (23)
  • Hillary Clinton (22)
  • Labor (22)
  • Texas (21)
  • Rescued (21)
  • 2016 (21)
  • Racism (20)
  • Media (20)
  • Environment (20)
  • Barack Obama (19)
  • Click here for the mobile view of the site