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  •  Danny Stover (1+ / 0-)
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    got about 40% of the vote, I believe, just on grassroots support.  So, knocking out Dimkus doesn't look it would have virtually no chance of happening, if the party itself would get off its ass.  'Course, this electioneering and districting stuff is above my pay grade; I won't claim to grasp it.  

    A few give much, a few give all, most Americans give....NOTHING! ~~~ Support our troops - Bring them home

    by Hound Dog on Wed May 20, 2009 at 02:47:40 PM PDT

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    •  I was a volunteer campaign office manager ... (1+ / 0-)
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      for Danny Stover. It was truly a grassroots operation. The biggest problem for Stover was the complete lack of support from the Illinois Democratic Party, county Democratic organizations in the district and Senator Obama. Senator Durbin did do one fundraiser for Stover (although his wife had to fill in at the last minute vecause Durbin was on an emergency trip to the mideast) and he came to a "motivational" luncheon at our office shortly before the election.

      I believe that Shimkus will not be defeated because the Illinois Democrats do not want him defeated ... my theory is that there must be some type of backroom deal between Costello & Shimkus and their state party loyalist ... i.e. we won't support anyone running against Costello if you don't support anyone running against Shimkus.

      IL-19 will disappear after the 2010 census. I expect that Shimkus' final race will be 2010 and then I look for him to go after some state elected office. He will need to pad his retirement portfolio since his military and congressional pensions won't be enough for him to maintain his lifestyle.

      •  We probably have met. (1+ / 0-)
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        Shump Dimkus!  ; - )

        A few give much, a few give all, most Americans give....NOTHING! ~~~ Support our troops - Bring them home

        by Hound Dog on Wed May 20, 2009 at 03:45:17 PM PDT

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      •  something stinks (1+ / 0-)
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        All the incumbents for both parties were drawn safe districts so I'm not sure whether the deal involved Costello.  Who knows?  
        It still irks me that Democratic leaders signed off on drawing David Phelps out of his district and kept Shimkus instead.  Sure, Phelps was a blue dog but he was pro-union and he never would have gone off the deep end like Shimkus has.

        If Shimkus is foolish enough to think he'd have a chance in a statewide election the I'd live to see him run just to get him out of the seat.

    •  But (0+ / 0-)

      Stover only got 40% just a few weeks after Shimkus' role in the Foley page scandal broke as a national story.  Mickey Mouse should have gotten at least 45%.

      For those who aren't familiar with the district, my last comment wasn't about Stover in '06.  I helped Stover too and I thought he was a good candidate.  He did the best he could in a tough race with limited resources.

      The national party isn't going to invest money when they see a 65% Republican district and an incumbent who already beat David Phelps. There has to be a new district redrawn for 2012.

      The other problem for Stover is that a lot of voters in the district didn't even know about Shimkus' role in the page scandal, or they believed a flimsy excuse for it, because the in-district press is a lot gentler to him than the national press.  Many people only heard about it through right wing talk radio.

      •  The Post-Dispatch (0+ / 0-)

        covered it damned well, I thought.  TV too.

        A few give much, a few give all, most Americans give....NOTHING! ~~~ Support our troops - Bring them home

        by Hound Dog on Wed May 20, 2009 at 06:14:58 PM PDT

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