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    badger1968

    Well then.  That sums it up.

    1.  One article that says Obama PROBABLY doesn't support this.
    1.  One comment says that someone remembers something about an article they once read from the New York Times.

    Case solved.  Game over man.  Game over!!!

    And with that folks.  I'm out of here!

    There are four boxes to use in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, ammo. Use in that order. Ed Howdershelt

    by Lava20 on Fri May 22, 2009 at 05:01:08 PM PDT

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    •  here's a link (3+ / 0-)

      www.nytimes.com/2009/03/15/us/politics/15health.html

      I don't think anyone can claim to know with 100% certainty that Obama is for or against this.  My only point was to say that this isn't the first time this has been in the news.

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        askew, badger1968

        you read that?  Because:

        He's said that he things it is stupid:

        The proposal is politically problematic for President Obama, however, since it is similar to one he denounced in the presidential campaign as "the largest middle-class tax increase in history." Most Americans with insurance get it from their employers, and taxing workers for the benefit is opposed by union leaders and some businesses.

        Geither indicates that Obama still feels this way

        When Senator Max Baucus, Democrat of Montana, advocated taxing benefits at a recent hearing of the Finance Committee, which he leads, Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner assured him that the administration was open to all ideas from Congress. Mr. Geithner did, however, allude to the position that Mr. Obama had taken as a candidate.

        And I'm using your sources.  If anything I would be less concerned with Obama and more concerned with Baucus at this point:

        The administration’s receptivity to the idea is owed partly to the advocacy of Mr. Baucus, whose committee has jurisdiction over tax policy and health programs, and to support from Republicans. There is less enthusiasm among Democrats in the House, though the health debate is at an early stage and no comprehensive plans are on the table.

        All of Baucus' actions at this point indicate that he's not interested in a serious plan that will work for Americans.  If there's someone we need to target right now, he's the one.

        There are four boxes to use in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, ammo. Use in that order. Ed Howdershelt

        by Lava20 on Fri May 22, 2009 at 05:46:21 PM PDT

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          Dirtandiron, badger1968

          "WASHINGTON — The Obama administration is signaling to Congress that the president could support taxing some employee health benefits, as several influential lawmakers and many economists favor, to help pay for overhauling the health care system."

          First paragraph of the NY Times article.

          Again, my only point was that I remembered reading something about this earlier this spring.

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            spend the rest of article playing guilty by association.  And that not very well, because T. Geithner says he's still sticking to his campaign platform and thinks taxing benefits is silly.

            You can slap any  titleyou want.  The article doesn't stand up for what it is trying to prove.

            Or do you think Baucus is part of the Obama Administration?

            There are four boxes to use in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, ammo. Use in that order. Ed Howdershelt

            by Lava20 on Fri May 22, 2009 at 06:12:34 PM PDT

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          •  Economists (1+ / 0-)
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            love this quote:

            many economists favor

            taxing healthcare benefits because not doing so is "economically inefficient."

            These are the same numb fucks who thought mortgage backed securities and credit default swaps were a great idea!  Why does anyone put any credence into what these fucks think is "inefficient."  The "invisible hand" needs to slap them silly.

            The only economist I trust is Krugman, and just barely.  : )

            "I shall never surrender or retreat." --Lieutenant Colonel William Barret Travis

            by badger1968 on Fri May 22, 2009 at 06:28:41 PM PDT

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