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  •  "Celestial marriage", ah yes, (2+ / 0-)
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    luvmovies2000, CDH in Brooklyn

    that's a good one.  See, my wife's previous husband, a terrible abuser, was killed in a horse-riding accident back in the '70s, a few years after they were married.  Married, that is, as Mormons in a Mormon church (but not at The Temple).  Now Mormon doctrine, as I understand it, holds that they will be reunited as husband and wife in Heaven when she dies.  And I, an atheist, will of course burn in hell forever.  So here's my wife's conundrum:  she's going to be reunited for an eternal marriage with a man she ended up hating because of the way he treated her (beatings, hair-pulling, mental oppression, and more), but will be eternally separated from the soul of the man and husband she does love (me).

    But, of course, since her marriage to me is, according to Elder Nelson, simply an act of spiritual shoplifting, the "eternal" scenario I just described is the proper reward for her.

    The question is not what, but who you want to be. --F.R. Prince

    by cn4st4datrees on Mon May 25, 2009 at 11:01:28 AM PDT

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    •  You Misunderstand Mormon Doctrine... (1+ / 0-)
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      You say that your wife was not married in the Temple.  Therefore her marriage to her first husband was for this life only and not eternal.

      Should you die first, your wife could be sealed to you in the Temple for Eternity.  Ask your wife about this.  However, I suspect that your goal is not to be with your current wife eternally.

      •  Thanks for correction. (2+ / 0-)

        I have asked my wife about this, and she says she's not sure, but that if I really wanted to know the specifics of Mormon doctrine on this point I should ask her Bishop.  Meh, truth is, I don't really care since I believe there is no such thing as an afterlife anyway, and so deeper discussion is actually pointless.

        However, it is still valid to discuss the doctrine from a hypothetical point of view:  if, stipulated, a marriage conducted in the Temple in Salt Lake City is a marriage that will continue in Heaven for all eternity, and if that marriage was to a man who was a horrible physical abuser of his wife, and if that woman then later married a non-Mormon man whom she deeply loved, could you then call "Heavenly Father" a just and fair God for reuniting her with her abuser but eternally separating her from her true soulmate?  I know I couldn't.

        The question is not what, but who you want to be. --F.R. Prince

        by cn4st4datrees on Mon May 25, 2009 at 11:55:45 AM PDT

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        •  That answer is easy: No way. n/t (0+ / 0-)
        •  Your Hypothetical Doesn't Represent... (0+ / 0-)

          actual Mormon Doctrine.  Many Sealings in the Mormon Temple are cancelled for a variety of reasons such as the example you cite, physical abuse.  And a wife can and often is sealed to her non mormon husband after her death, so that she can be reunited with her true soulmate.

          And you should have only good feelings when you receive food from the Mormon Church.  They have a vast welfare system that helps people of all races, faiths, nationalities, etc.  They are often some of the first groups to bring supplies to areas hit by natural disasters.  You may also want to see what your local areas welfare projects consist of.  You may be physically able to help on the projects so that others in need will benefit from your labors.  Your wife will know what welfare projects are performed in your area.  Much of the food you received was prepared in church factories by member volunteers.

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