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  •  This doesn't even make sense on its own terms (7+ / 0-)

    There's hardly any discernible emphasis on the last syllable in Sotomayor, natively spoken.  It's must more of an affectation to emphasize the last syllable strongly, than to put equal emphasis on all of the syllables.

    Which brings me to the question: what's the alternative, assimilated pronunciation that Krikorian proposes for Sotomayor?  It's not like there is some covering rule in English for pronouncing it, a rule that we're abandoning (in our multi-culti haste) in favor of a Spanish rule.  If Krikorian is arguing for putting the emphasis on the first, second, or third syllables, he's not sticking up for English (which doesn't have a dog in this race), he's sticking up for petulance: the right to mangle someone's name in order to assert your superiority.  Who knows--if you start small, with names, you might someday try to re-name your opponents' whole political party!

    Nah, that's crazy talk.

    Al que no le guste el caldo, le dan dos tazas.

    by Rich in PA on Wed May 27, 2009 at 06:21:53 PM PDT

    •  I think what's important (8+ / 0-)

      is that Sonia not pronounce her own name the way she wants to.  Which other prounciation is chosen by the Real Americans is secondary to rubbing her face in it.

      You're better off reading Josh Marshall in the first place.

      by Inland on Wed May 27, 2009 at 06:25:27 PM PDT

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      •  In practice, people of great accomplishment (1+ / 0-)

        ...have relatively little occasion to pronounce their own names!  In fact, when they swear her in that's likely going to be one of the few times in recent years where she's spoken her own name in front of anyone.  And she's going to do the Full Monty on it, bless her heart :)

        Al que no le guste el caldo, le dan dos tazas.

        by Rich in PA on Wed May 27, 2009 at 06:28:47 PM PDT

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    •  he does propose a pronunciation (1+ / 0-)
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      mieprowan

      in his earlier post.  he suggest pronouncing it like niedermeyer, as if it were german.

      I kid you not.

      the means IS the end

      by jrcjr on Wed May 27, 2009 at 07:21:04 PM PDT

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      •  That's the point (0+ / 0-)

        "As if it were German."  Since when are we Germans?  What part of Germany has a formal political association with the United States, as Puerto Rico has?  What state has 20% or more native speakers of German, as a few US states have?

        I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but Krikorian doesn't propose to treat Spanish like other languages--he wants it singled out for derision.

        Al que no le guste el caldo, le dan dos tazas.

        by Rich in PA on Thu May 28, 2009 at 05:34:49 AM PDT

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