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  •  say what you will (0+ / 0-)

    but it's still technically a country.

    oops. I hope the gate wasn't too expensive.

    My blog. Come visit.

    by Dante Atkins on Thu May 28, 2009 at 09:37:26 AM PDT

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    •  but does it deserve to be recognized? (1+ / 0-)
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    •  Lincoln. . . (1+ / 0-)
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      . . . used to riddle his children, "if a horses tail was called a leg, how many legs would the horse have?" The answer, "four. . .calling a taila leg does not make it a leg".

      Likewise, calling a religion inside an insular city a country does not make it one. And, besides the VITAL seperation of church and state issue (no other religion has it's own ambassador), it is simply immoral to give recognition to an institution that has tortured and murdered millions, making Hitler look like a choir boy. I don't give a ratsass how many people kiss the popes ass, our country should not do it.

      •  please argue about current status (1+ / 0-)
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        because if we use the sins of the father approach, we shouldn't have any ambassadors to, say, most of Europe.  After all, the Vikings were all bloodthirsty pillagers in the middle ages, so that pretty much disqualifies all of Scandinavia, outside of the Finns.  England?  Don't get me started.  Spain?  France?  Germany, of course.  And we shouldn't have diplomatic relations with Russia either.  Czarism, Stalinism, and now corporate plutocracy.

        And don't get me started on Mongolia.

        And now to the current status.  No other religion has its own country.  If Mecca were its own independent city and the equivalent of the Holy See of Islam, you can bet we'd have an ambassador.  If Canterbury were technically an independent country, we'd have one there too.  Same with Salt Lake.

        Given the fact that the Vatican is its own independent country--theocracy or not--it should be eligible for diplomatic representation.

        oops. I hope the gate wasn't too expensive.

        My blog. Come visit.

        by Dante Atkins on Thu May 28, 2009 at 10:18:19 AM PDT

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        •  NO!!! (0+ / 0-)

          It is not a country. . .that is juust plain bullshit. We got along just fine without an ambassador unti Reagan, in a deal with the devil, appointed one: we would get by without an ambassador just fine now, probably better.

          As for your example of mecca and cantebury. . .if a frog had wings, he wouldnt bump his ass when he jumps.

        •  Liechtenstein shares a US ambassador (0+ / 0-)

          with Switzerland.  The Holy See could share an ambassador with Italy.  Monaco shares with France.  Andorra shares with Spain.  It's a comparable situation.

          "It costs a lot of money to die comfortably" ~ Edmund Burke (prophesying the demise of the Republican Party)

          by Andhakari on Thu May 28, 2009 at 11:31:37 AM PDT

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          •  Or (0+ / 0-)

            All those places could have their own ambassador.  If we wanted to make, you know, a very diplomatic sort of point and butter up the people of Andorra and all their admirers around the world, we could spare them their own.

            You're better off reading Josh Marshall in the first place.

            by Inland on Thu May 28, 2009 at 11:53:56 AM PDT

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            •  Is the embassy to a religion (0+ / 0-)

              or a country?  If it's to a country, then there's no need for the embassy.  If it's to a religion, then we should have embassies to every magic act that wants one.

              "It costs a lot of money to die comfortably" ~ Edmund Burke (prophesying the demise of the Republican Party)

              by Andhakari on Thu May 28, 2009 at 12:10:02 PM PDT

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              •  There's no need for an embassy in any country (0+ / 0-)

                except as diplomacy requires.  If not for diplomacy, the administration wouldn't have any embassy in any country and it would be calling one of the world's major religions a magic act.  

                You're better off reading Josh Marshall in the first place.

                by Inland on Thu May 28, 2009 at 12:22:43 PM PDT

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                •  It's not even a magic act (0+ / 0-)

                  The Vatican even aided the nazis, for Gods sake (pardon the pun). Why this band of thugs and pedophiles is given any regard whatsoever is beyond me.

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