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  •  But religion doesn't claim to be neutral (0+ / 0-)

    It's main justification (better stated, the main justification religious apologists make for religion) is that it makes people better. Most apologists even argue it is essential to human existence (and, by implication - always by implication - that those of us who lack it are somehow imperfect or inferior).

    If all religion can claim is that it doesn't have an effect one way or another on people's behavior, then it is a failure on its face.

    Every religion claims that by following its tenets, the follower is improved (and, again, by implication, those who fail to follow it are not). Every religion teaches that the value of giving up certain freedoms and following its constraints is a better world full of better people.

    It's a big deal, and the main argument for religion.

    I know of no religion whose central dogma is "Meh."

    So, arguments of the type "religion doesn't kill people, guns kill people (oops, I meant bad people kill people)" are nothing more than red herrings.

    The reason question is, if religion is such a manifest failure at achieving its mission, why not try reason?

    One day posterity will remember, this strange era, these strange times, when ordinary common honesty was called courage. -- Yevgeny Yevtushenko

    by RandomActsOfReason on Fri May 29, 2009 at 12:34:14 AM PDT

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