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  •  Like i said (0+ / 0-)

    I agree with you.  How long did blacks wait to become recognized as humans in the eyes of the law?  Or woman, for that matter?  It sucks, but justice takes a while.  Keep up the fight, but don't give up on Obama.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesusland_map is shrinking

    by AppleP on Sat May 30, 2009 at 05:29:07 PM PDT

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    •  This is the twenty-first century (4+ / 0-)

      and our president is a black man. I shouldn't be able to expect a little bit more in such circumstances? Never mind that the "who's more oppressed?" game has no winners--or that there are both black and female gay folk.

    •  While Blacks and Women Were Waiting - (3+ / 0-)
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      GLBTIQ people were relegated to subhuman status.

      We have been and continue to be murdered, imprisoned, lobotomized, and fired simply for being who we are.

      When you develop a "timetable" of what it is to be human, then I might accept your argument.

      •  I am a member of a union (0+ / 0-)

        just a working stiff, yet I am being furloughed by a governor (Doyle) who I helped to get elected.  And he is raising my health care costs and trying to get a previously negotiated 2% raise revoked.  Meanwhile, the tax cuts for the rich and corporations passed by the previous administrations get ignored.  I feel like a 2nd class citizen in my own country.  

        What do you suggest?  Do I retaliate against Doyle by working for his opponents in the next election?  

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesusland_map is shrinking

        by AppleP on Sat May 30, 2009 at 05:50:09 PM PDT

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        •  From what I hear (1+ / 0-)
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          you may not have to worry about that. Jim Doyle isn't exactly popular these days. And perhaps if he hears from more of his constituents just how unhappy they are with this performance, he might be motivated to do better?

          •  All I am saying is that (0+ / 0-)

            even though we may feel hurt personally by a politician, we shouldn't be a one-issue voter.  We may not be able to convince the politician we voted for to focus on our #1 issue immediately, there is no possible chance the other side would have made the right decision.  So, like I said, keep fighting but don't give up on Obama.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesusland_map is shrinking

            by AppleP on Sun May 31, 2009 at 05:10:25 AM PDT

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        •  Pease Do Not - (3+ / 0-)
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          Offer tangential arguments.
          I am sorry that you face these economic hardships.
          (I face some pretty tough economic times too.)

          You argued that the GLBTIQ community would have to "wait its turn" - whatever that might mean.  Were you dismissed because you were gay, female, Jewish, Asian American?

          Not only do GLBTIQ people face what you face every day, but we also deal with institutionalized discrimination - much of which is perfectly legal.

          Obama promised change -
          And has yet even to speak out.

          Yes.
          You do challenge him.

          •  All I am saying is that (0+ / 0-)

            even though we may feel hurt personally by a politician, we shouldn't be a one-issue voter.  We may not be able to convince the politician we voted for to focus on our #1 issue immediately, there is no possible chance the other side would have made the right decision.  So, like I said, keep fighting but don't give up on Obama.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesusland_map is shrinking

            by AppleP on Sun May 31, 2009 at 05:11:22 AM PDT

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