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  •  Thanks for doing this! I love your framing btw... (10+ / 0-)

    ...re: this:

    I think she hit the key words that define the experience of Americans in regard to health care: live in fear.  Perhaps this would be useful as a pro-single-payer talking point?  "Stop living in fear"...  "End the fear"... ?

    The health-care campaign ads nearly write themselves. Question to the U.S. Kossacks on the thread: which one of us Americans HASN'T feared--at some point in our lives--that we'd be forced to go without healthcare/losing our health insurance?

    "Favoring the use of torture is not a political position, it's a mental illness." - Devilstower

    by boofdah on Wed Jun 03, 2009 at 08:59:38 AM PDT

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    •  Quite. How completely ludicrous to not go (10+ / 0-)

      to the doctor and get medical care for fear you will lose your insurance and thus lose your medical care.

      The insurers love that we limit and ration ourselves.

      The ultimate mark of evil: getting others to do the evil to themselves.

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      by ludlow on Wed Jun 03, 2009 at 09:08:45 AM PDT

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      •  When you're dealing with insurance for profit (5+ / 0-)

        such actions naturally follow.

        How many of us don't report minor (or even major) incidents with our cars in order to preserve our insurance and rates?

        Lots.

        What the cynics fail to understand is that the ground has shifted beneath them... Barack Obama

        by lcbo on Wed Jun 03, 2009 at 09:31:53 AM PDT

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      •  We do the same with minor car accidents (2+ / 0-)
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        and shed burglaries. They don't hit the deductible and we might get canceled if we report every little thing.
        More insurance scam racket, eh?

        Cheney-bu$h tortured people
        To get false confessions
        To fraudulently justify
        Invasion of Iraq!

        by OleHippieChick on Wed Jun 03, 2009 at 10:39:03 AM PDT

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      •  Anyone who may have a condition (0+ / 0-)

        That tends to render one "uninsurable" - such as cancer, diabetes, certain forms of heart disease, athritis, etc. (you know - the most common diseases for which you need insurance) lives in fear of a diagnosis; not because of the health implications, but because of the bankruptcy implications.

        Essentially, if you have one of these diseases, or a nasty car accident, or anything that incurs significant medical costs, your entire family is punished for it.

        Many people do not want to inflict such misfortune on the ones they love.

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        by mataliandy on Wed Jun 03, 2009 at 03:34:06 PM PDT

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    •  Exactly... (4+ / 0-)

      I have more or less refused to move out of my parents house while attending school because my heath insurance will last until I am 25.  Of course, I could move into a "non-permanent address" for school, but I attend school about 5 miles away so that seems pointless.

      Nonetheless, my father may be getting laid of soon making all of this moot.

      •  My son is in the same boat (0+ / 0-)

        With any luck that will put him (and you) in a better financial position at 25.

        Capital is only the fruit of labor, [...] Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.
        President Lincoln, December 3, 1861

        by notrouble on Wed Jun 03, 2009 at 10:55:47 AM PDT

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