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  •  More honest than Bush ... (8+ / 0-)

    This is the most honest stance from an American President that I've heard.

    Two questions still seem stuck in the craw of Arab listeners:

    1. Why did Obama not directly address the unfreedom in Egypt where a US propped dictator rules by coercion? What is the policy change?
    1. When Obama pivoted from the horror of the Holocaust to the right of Israel to exist, the unanswered question was "But why on our lands? It was the Germans that did it."

    Naturally, I'm not expecting a response nor intend to troll.

    The reaction to the speech was incredibly moving on all other counts. It is a testament to Obama that he had to pause for such spontaneous applause rather than flying shoes!

    "Self-regulation is to regulation as self-importance is to importance." Willem Buiter

    by Bronxist on Thu Jun 04, 2009 at 04:38:33 PM PDT

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    •  Re your question 1 (7+ / 0-)

      It would be rather undiplomatic, if not outright rude, to criticize the host country in public, specifically in a speech that centers on outreach in one of their most important cultural institutions. Obama will still have to work with the Egyptian government over the next few years, and stepping on their toes in public is not going to make that easier.

      The FOX is a common carrier of rabies, a virus that leaves its victims foaming at the mouth and causes paranoia and hallucinations.

      by Calouste on Thu Jun 04, 2009 at 04:57:36 PM PDT

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    •  he did mention (1+ / 0-)
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      in democracy, but no directly naming name. It's his host. I think he has to show some difference.

      About Israel, he can only go so far. But  it's much farther than anybody. And he mention palestinian plight. Nobody has done it before. He also insist on Palestinian state.

    •  he totally responded to #1 (2+ / 0-)
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      he just didn't call mubarak out by name, but his speech was chock-full-o pointed commentary on democracy, rule of law, etc., for an audience that is skilled at reading between lines.

      i was slack-jawed in shock about some of that speech, given the location.

      surf putah, your friendly neighborhood central valley samizdat

      by wu ming on Thu Jun 04, 2009 at 07:27:09 PM PDT

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    •  as for #2 (1+ / 0-)
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      i think he made it clear that it was indeed the germans that did it, and that the palestinian experience of the nakba (described but not named) was a legitimate experience, but that since israel is there now, and isn't going away, that particular discussion isn't particularly productive towards the end of making a just and lasting peace.

      it gave everyone face while trying to shepherd all actors towards a peace settlement.

      surf putah, your friendly neighborhood central valley samizdat

      by wu ming on Thu Jun 04, 2009 at 07:29:31 PM PDT

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    •  Obama answered it. (0+ / 0-)

      Why did Obama not directly address the unfreedom in Egypt where a US propped dictator rules by coercion? What is the policy change?

      Obama said we have no right to dictate what a nation should do.  If the Egyptians want to rise up to their dictator, they can do it.  Otherwise, we have nothing to do with it besides operate normal relations as Obama  and other US administrations do in all other nations.  Soon Cuba will be included in the list of nations that we respect their dictators.

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