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  •  Alfredo's answer (0+ / 0-)

    Governor Lacoste ordered General Massu to break the strike of 1957 and then General Massu, famous for his indiscriminate use of torture, indentified and destroyed the FLN's cell in the Casbah. William Polk dedicates the 8th chapter of his book Violent Politics to this. The FLN activity in Alger pushed Lacoste to bring the paratroopers to Alger, giving the French a temporary victory.

    •  Alfredo's Answer (1+ / 0-)
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      from the producers that brought you Carlito's Way and Sophie's Choice.

    •  Paratroopers were in Algeria already since (2+ / 0-)
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      1954, and the war was very bloody and torture was rampant. Remember the operation of August 19th 1955 conducted by the FLN in the east, the center and west of the country.

      Massu came to Algiers as a defeated general. Remember, that in 1956, his 10th parachute division was in Egypt to take part in the recapturing of the Suez canal after Nasser nationalized it. The French did not have enough troops to divert some of them to Algiers. The FLN under the leadership of Ben Mahidi turned Algiers into a deathtrap by targeting civilians as well as non-civilians. Massu and his division were suddenly freed and so they sent them to Algiers. However, make no mistake, the decision to send Massu to Algiers was not Lacoste's. It was Guy Mollet's decision who was the prime minister at that time.

      So although you got some facts right, you oversimplified the facts too much.

      Don't give a damn a/t each & every politician currently alive in the US. Last time i voted for the top part of the ballot was 1972. Never missed SB election

      by Mutual Assured Destruction on Thu Jun 04, 2009 at 10:00:57 PM PDT

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      •  there's a fabulous film called (3+ / 0-)

        The Battle of Algiers

        It's done kind of cinema-virite, and packs quite a punch.


        We need to get back to bedrock American values like torture and secession. - Josh Marshall

        by AlyoshaKaramazov on Thu Jun 04, 2009 at 10:04:47 PM PDT

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        •  Yes, Ponte Corvo is the directed. Really good (2+ / 0-)
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          one too.

          I know that war a bit because when i was growing up the Algerian war of independence was wagging, and i was extremely attracted to it because i marveled at how a bunch of young of civilians and peasants with little weaponry beat the 4th most powerful country in the world back then. So i used to read newspapers, watch newsreel, and write the state department and ask for update and so forth. I was literally obsessed and fascinated by that war from start to finish.

          Don't give a damn a/t each & every politician currently alive in the US. Last time i voted for the top part of the ballot was 1972. Never missed SB election

          by Mutual Assured Destruction on Thu Jun 04, 2009 at 10:15:07 PM PDT

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          •  you probably like Battle of Agincourt too then, (2+ / 0-)

            huh?

            St. Crispin's Day!


            WESTMORELAND. O that we now had here
               But one ten thousand of those men in England
               That do no work to-day!
             

            KING:  This day is called the feast of Crispian:

            He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,

            Will stand a tip-toe when this day is named,

            And rouse him at the name of Crispian.


            He that shall see this day and live old age,

            Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,

            And say 'To-morrow is Saint Crispin's:'

            Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars.

            And say 'These wounds I had on Crispin's day.'

               
               

            Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot,

            But he'll remember with advantages

            What feats he did that day.

            Then shall our names,

            Familiar in their mouths as household words,

            Harry the king,

               Bedford and Exeter,

                   Warwick and Talbot,

                       Salisbury and Gloucester,

            Be in their flowing cups freshly remember'd.



            This story shall the good man teach his son;

            And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,

            From this day to the ending of the world,

            But we in it shall be remember'd;


            We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;

            For he to-day that sheds his blood with me

            Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,

            This day shall gentle his condition:

            And gentlemen in England now a-bed

            Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,

            And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks

            That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.


            We need to get back to bedrock American values like torture and secession. - Josh Marshall

            by AlyoshaKaramazov on Thu Jun 04, 2009 at 10:32:25 PM PDT

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      •  Alfredo's answer (0+ / 0-)

        I didn't say that it was Lacoste's decision to bring Massu to Algiers but it was Lacoste who ordered Massu to break the strike. I regret some condescending tone in your objections but I thank you for the information you use to support them. That's the kind of objections that enrich the debate.

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