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  •  Maybe if the Times and WaPo (15+ / 0-)

    actually did some real REPORTING with FACTS and stuff instead of repeating word for word what the GOP propaganda machine puts out, they wouldn't have to do these sort of embarrassing retractions.

    I know, I'm dreaming again...

    "Load up on guns, bring your friends, it's fun to lose and to pretend" Kurt Cobain-1991

    by Jeff Y on Sun Jun 07, 2009 at 04:17:15 PM PDT

    •  They did it again this morning. (19+ / 0-)

      Page A1 piece of crap completely misreading several emails sent by Jim Comey around the time the torture memos were being written.  They've dutifully played stenographer for their 'anonymous source' (likely Stephen Bradley) and helped obscure in a lot of unwary readers' minds what the emails really said.

      Read "Legal" by Marcy Wheeler and What the new Jim Comey torture emails actually reveal by Glenn Greenwald to get a complete picture of how low the Grey Lady has sunk.

      Conservatism is a function of age - Rousseau
      I've been 19 longer'n you've been alive - me

      by watercarrier4diogenes on Sun Jun 07, 2009 at 04:33:46 PM PDT

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      •  It would be funny if it weren't infuriating (5+ / 0-)

        that the Times today would publish an article that shows the lack of any results from the chastising of the public editor.

        Reading Greenwald and the memos themselves shows how ass backwards and distorting the headline and the lede of today's article is.  While the headline says that U.S. Lawyers Agreed on Legality of Brutal Tactic , the emails themselves say the exact opposite.

        And yet, Stephanopolous twitters today that the emails are a "stunning" development.

        And this is all beside the point that "legal memos" cannot excuse lawbreaking, especially a heinous crime like torture.

        It's as though Bill Kristol were still at the Times editing torture coverage.

        The GOP: "You can always go to the Emergency Room."

        by Upper West on Sun Jun 07, 2009 at 06:24:41 PM PDT

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    •  Oh, come on (7+ / 0-)

      Look at the great work they did during the campaign! The NYT spent thousands of words dissecting the Clintons' marriage (I guess the piece about John and Cindy McCain got lost in the pipeline somewhere). And the WaPo did FABULOUS stories about Hillary's cleavage and the trouble Obama was having overcoming the "Internet Muslim rumors," which they never bothered to say definitively were untrue but merely used a he said/she said format, quoting an Obama spokesperson as "denying" then. I'm sure I can thing  of more examples if you give me a couple of seconds.

      Rob Portman: He sent your job to China.

      by anastasia p on Sun Jun 07, 2009 at 06:18:01 PM PDT

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    •  "Shallow Throat" stenographers... (0+ / 0-)

      Republican style shooting fish in a barrel lazyness... once on top, actual substantial work wanes... why put in the extra effort when everything is outsourced or co-opted and bought and silenced... the whole idea of "making it to the top" is to reap the entitlements of being there... having other people do the work or just be paid for doing very little, just being the face that mouths the words of others... and pretending to wear the hat of someone who used to originate them. All hat and no cattle reporting... an empty ranch style reporter...

      Paint by numbers business model applied to "news gathering"... The palette and design might as well be pre-chosen by the Cheney message committee. Hollowed out news organizations just flunkies passing along and barely massaging the premixed colorings. Hardly any retouching or blurring required... it's all in the no-shake and half bake recipe...

      All so easy to allow this to happen when "Access" becomes so important that impartiality can be sacrificed to maintain it. Eating McCain's barbecue... is symbolic of this... we are all just pals and get along so well, lalalalala

      All to insure getting the inside scoop on the talking points and tweaked info, each "news organ just like all the rest... like they were handling scripture... spouted and unchallenged and helpfully "interpreted" by the usual scripted pundit shills.

      Pogo & Murphy's Law, every time. Also "Trust but verify" - St. Ronnie

      by IreGyre on Mon Jun 08, 2009 at 02:52:17 AM PDT

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