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  •  I respect your cynicism completely. (1+ / 0-)
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    But I take great issue with your use of the term "magical powers" to describe what we are discussing.

    I am not an expert on any of this - but some of these techniques are centuries old. Just because they come from another culture and can sound foreign to our way of doing politics doesn't make them magical.

    •  Magical in the sense that (1+ / 0-)
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      until proven to be applicable in our political reality and to actually work, they are indeed magical. What Obama's 11D chess proponents are proposing is that he's going to successfully do something that's never been done in the entire history of politics, namely, implement massive and fundamental change without real confrontation.

      It's never been done, and almost certainly never will be done. There's no such thing as a bloodless war, and we are at war. Until someone proves this wrong in the real world, it will continue to be magical. I'm not cynical here, but realistic. Faith is not reality.

      "Reagan's dead, and he was a lousy president!" -- Keith Olbermann 4/22/09

      by kovie on Mon Jun 08, 2009 at 04:34:57 PM PDT

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      •  While the techniques (0+ / 0-)

        are new to our political arena (like the one's we've been using are soooo successful by comparison LOL) - the truth is that they are centuries old and have been a way of life in other cultures and battles. If you want to call their implementation in our system magical - that is certainly your prerogative. But it's not how most people use that word.

        •  Yes, it is magical (0+ / 0-)

          Because it's never been done in politics to my knowledge. What are these examples that you keep referring to? Have they ever worked in the US? The biggest reforms in US history have ALWAYS been muscled through, never finessed. Ending slavery, suffrage, progressive reforms, civil rights--all the outcome of long, hard, bloody fights.

          And the techniques that you laugh at because they haven't worked are precisely the ones that Obama's employing here, albeit in more refined form, i.e. triangulation. So you only prove my point. He is trying to be Repub Lite to forestall attacks from the right and center. Yeah, that worked SOOOOO well under Clinton.

          "Reagan's dead, and he was a lousy president!" -- Keith Olbermann 4/22/09

          by kovie on Mon Jun 08, 2009 at 10:46:19 PM PDT

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