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  •  Your diaries are.. (3+ / 0-)
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    Noah in NY, rbguy, soysauce

    ..much appreciated here, rbguy -- and thanks for your personal narrative.  Unfortunately, folks with the more hard-line views seem to predominate on these threads.  You're one of the exceptions.


    •  Thanks for the kind words, Sofia (3+ / 0-)
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      I completely understand your point, as well as agree with it.  I'll keep plugging away, however, and hope that something changes within the larger DK community.

      •  Me too. :) n/t (3+ / 0-)
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      •  btw.. (3+ / 0-)
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        Karmafish, Noah in NY, rbguy

        ..I believe most in the dkos community actually support your point of view, unfortunately though, the majority tend to stay away from these threads, leaving the discussion to the hard-liners on both sides.

        •  Your idea makes sense (2+ / 0-)
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          sofia, Noah in NY

          Do you have any idea how it would be possible to begin to engage that community?

          •  That's the problem with this issue.. (2+ / 0-)
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            Noah in NY, rbguy

            ..the broader community tends to stay away because of the hardliners and acrimony so prevalent in these threads.   If you can write a diary with a catchy title, and attention getting first paragraph, you may manage to get on the recommended list, where many will see your work.  

            Lately a few I/P diaries have made it there, but none of those have been action oriented like yours; i.e., something folks could do to help achieve a viable Palestinian state.  My impression is many of the commenters in these threads aren't interested in the two state solution.  More, they promote the one-state idea, or don't want to hear any criticism of Israel.   Keep trying. :)

            •  Sofia, you may be referring to me as (2+ / 0-)
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              sofia, rbguy

              one of the "hard-liners" on the Palestinian side.  I am an agnostic on the path to peace.  If a two-state solution is viable, I'll accept it.  I think one-state with equality and civil rights for all is a more just solution, but I am also a pragmatist.  

              From my knowledge of the on-the-ground situation, I am doubtful that two states will come to pass, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't celebrate it if it does.

              I also appreciate your diaries, rbguy.  I hope you make it to the rec list.  We need your voice.

              The three hardest tasks in the world...: to return love for hate, to include the excluded, and to say, "I was wrong". Sydney J. Harris

              by soysauce on Tue Jun 09, 2009 at 02:56:20 AM PDT

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          •  My two-cents (3+ / 0-)
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            sofia, rbguy, soysauce

            I'm sorry I'm late to this diary. I just 'discovered' it via Mondoweiss.

            I'm afraid that until people come to grips with how much of their present and future lives (and that of their children) depends on the I/P situation, they will not invest much energy in it. There is so much noise that calls for their attention, in ways that appear more immediate than the I/P conflict.

            One must remain hopeful however and go on doing what must be done, which is to disseminate as much information as one can in order to break the wall of silence that surround the real nature of that conflict, especially our participation in it. Once we become aware of that last point, it hurts our soul so much that the only solace is to speak out, to bear witness and to engage in a dialogue geared towards peace and justice for all involved.

            P.S. I think this is a seminal diary that you should consider publishing again at Kos.

            •  Thanks for the note (3+ / 0-)
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              Rusty Pipes, sofia, soysauce

              And thanks for reading Mondoweiss.  I greatly appreciate your comments, and I couldn't agree more.

              Unfortunately, there was not a Recommend box attached to your comment, otherwise I would certainly have checked it.

              If one considers re-publishing a diary, is there a proper protocol?  Do you just repost it at a later date?  And, do you note that it is a repost?


              •  Your diary is important. (4+ / 0-)
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                Rusty Pipes, sofia, Terra Mystica, rbguy

                I am glad it was mentioned in Mondoweiss.  That is an important website that is offering a new discourse to progressive Jews on Palestine and the Palestinians.

                I don't know the protocol, but I've seen diaries republished here without consequences.  I would go for it.  It deserves wider readership.  

                The three hardest tasks in the world...: to return love for hate, to include the excluded, and to say, "I was wrong". Sydney J. Harris

                by soysauce on Wed Jun 10, 2009 at 12:15:30 AM PDT

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              •  Hi rbguy.. (4+ / 0-)

       case you don't get a response from Gene; I'm not sure what the rules are re. re-posting, I have seen people do it, noting it is a re-post, but, from what I've observed it's usually after significant time has passed.  I suppose you could rework the diary a bit, maybe add a bit more on your personal reflections on the conflict, and re-post it with a different title.

                If you want more advice on this I would ask Meteor Blades.  You can contact him through the "contact us" link on the front page.

              •  Thanks for the diary (3+ / 0-)
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                Terra Mystica, rbguy, soysauce

                and resources, rbguy.  Although it is not involved in the kind of lobbying work that CMEP does, Friends of Sabeel is also a good resource.

                Although I cannot find this covered in the current version of the FAQ (although it does mention deleting and reposting the same diary), reposting an exact replica of a diary has been discouraged on this site.  However, it is not unusual for diarists to repost a portion of a former diary as part of one with new material and a new title.

                "Trolling is a sad reality of internet life...Directly replying to the content of a trollish message is usually a waste of time"

                by Rusty Pipes on Wed Jun 10, 2009 at 01:43:49 PM PDT

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