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  •  Can you get her linked to an ACT program? (2+ / 0-)
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    TrueBlueMajority, Sychotic1

    Can slap a DX of Major Depression on her and help her avoid homelessness and get her some community support.
    AND employ some ACT contractors who desperately need work.

    Torture good, Marijuana bad.
    Doc in the Twitterverse

    by xxdr zombiexx on Thu Jun 11, 2009 at 06:44:38 AM PDT

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    •  Being labeled as mentally ill (2+ / 0-)
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      churchylafemme, hulagirl

      can be a big problem.  It makes it much more difficult to get back into the job market and resume your life.

      Once you get locked into that system, its hard to get out.  Its not a healthy system, forcing people to be given the label of being chronically mentally ill is difficult.  It usually means giving up your current home and possessions to be put into housing, etc. which qualifies for these programs - a big disruption for someone going through cancer treatment.

      And that's part of the problem - ACT contractors who need work - maybe that money would be better spent on temporary assistance for people with cancer and other serious illnesses.  Now you understand why I get glares and hostility at the community network meetings and in the halls outside the statehouse committee rooms during budget time. I'm threatening someone's budget - someone who may be getting more than they can use.  In the budget turf battles, its not about helping people who need it, its about protecting budgets and jobs.

      Private health insurers always manage to stay one step ahead of the sheriff - Sen. Sherrod Brown

      by Betty Pinson on Thu Jun 11, 2009 at 07:56:46 AM PDT

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      •  Further info about cancer patients (3+ / 0-)
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        The reason most need temporary financial help isn't because depression over the illness prevents them from working full time.  Its usually due to side effects of the illness and treatment - nausea, fatigue, impaired immune systems, bone pain, "chemo brain", frequent medical appointments - all temporary but still debilitating.

        There's nothing greater than finishing treatment and being given a clean bill of health - most patients are highly motivated to get back to their normal lives and enjoy the gift of life they've been given.  Its hard to manage that when you've become financially dependent on a dx of chronic mental illness.

        Private health insurers always manage to stay one step ahead of the sheriff - Sen. Sherrod Brown

        by Betty Pinson on Thu Jun 11, 2009 at 08:11:10 AM PDT

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    •  This is a big problem in our (2+ / 0-)
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      country, is making people with a physical illness accept a mental health DX in order to avoid homelessness.  This is insane!  And that is what Social Security Disability does this to everyone.  

      It not always the illness that causes the depression, but the lost of quality of life, and having your security threaten, such as losing your home and all your savings you have worked for in a lifetime because you got sick in this system.  Not only that but facing your own mortality is a scary process that in our youth and beauty culture we don't talk about or address in a healthy way.  

      Accepting a major depression DX will not help her financially.  

      Sometimes when life throws you a curve ball, throw a spit ball back at it.

      by zaka1 on Thu Jun 11, 2009 at 09:00:03 AM PDT

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      •  I am totally with you. (2+ / 0-)
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        churchylafemme, zaka1

        I too am really aware of what this can do, but sleeping on the street or under a bridge aint so good either.

        Torture good, Marijuana bad.
        Doc in the Twitterverse

        by xxdr zombiexx on Thu Jun 11, 2009 at 09:42:18 AM PDT

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        •  I agree with you as well, (2+ / 0-)
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          churchylafemme, Betty Pinson

          I just feel that forcing a DSM DX on physically ill people is like blaming the victim for getting sick.  Depression is over used, many times people are mourning or going through an adjustment period.  Or they are depressed due to their circumstances, but a major depression DX is heavy duty and will follow that person for life in their medical records.

          Sometimes when life throws you a curve ball, throw a spit ball back at it.

          by zaka1 on Thu Jun 11, 2009 at 10:33:08 AM PDT

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