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  •  Of course priests are pro-birth! (none)
    They love those little children oh, oh so much...

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    by DC Pol Sci on Wed Nov 17, 2004 at 06:20:21 AM PST

    •  Get 'em young (none)
      My parents were friends with a Jesuit who once confided: "Let me have a child until he is seven, and he's mine for life."   Brrr-rrr!
      •  That's an old Catholic truism. (4.00)
        I was always taught that it means a child brought up in the Church as far as first communion will, no matter how far they stray, still call for last rites at the end of his/her life. The phrasing is unfortunate in context, but it's shorthand for an observation that has nothing to do with creating sexual abuse victims <g>.
        •  This one won't be. (none)
          Left the Church when I was 12 actually, not really understanding the presumed ramifications completely, but certain there was something else calling for me.

          I did feel very pretty in my first communion dress, and I wouldn't  trade that memory for anything, but I am my own-no priest's or church's.

          I've been a Buddhist for 20 years now. My last breath on earth will be "Nam Myoho Renge Kyo", not the request for last rites.

          First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. Mohandas Gandhi

          by boadicea on Wed Nov 17, 2004 at 09:41:37 AM PST

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      •  Catholics define membership at Baptism (none)
         which typically takes place a few weeks from Birth, so at that point you are on the rolls. That's why the numbers of Catholics are inflated. Those that left the Church and joined another Church are double counted.
          Even the Lapsed Catholics are counted, and a lot of us are the product of 9 years of Catholic Schooling. So don't believe the 7 year old stuff, at some point exposure to the world takes place and then the thought process takes another turn.
      •  Actually, it seems... (none)
        ...that at least some of the priests don't have all that much use for them after puberty.

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        by DC Pol Sci on Wed Nov 17, 2004 at 10:17:58 AM PST

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