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  •  Failure of leadership on both sides of the aisle. (3+ / 0-)
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    Dems are mute as well.

    Look at the bigger picture and you see a Republican party in shambles with few options but to drive the debate to the "mommy issue" (that Republicans are always perceived as stronger than Dems on defense and security issues) writ large and here at home on our shores.

    First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win. -Mohandas K. Gandhi

    by ezdidit on Sun Jun 14, 2009 at 08:47:02 AM PDT

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    •  Amen to that, ezdidit. (5+ / 0-)
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      Not too happy with our Dems right now, either.  What I want is to see some of them get up on their hind legs and stand for something.  
      They know what we want, they know they're in there because we put them there, but they have "other priorities".  Like keeping in place the status quo.
      But.  They're still yards better than what people like Mitch McConnell envision for us.  We have a chance to put the brakes on with these guys, no chance whatsoever with the other guys, we are.

      •  As long as elected Republicans (4+ / 0-)
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        foment discord with vituperative rhetoric and consent to the incitement of violence on specific individuals by their unelected spokespersons - O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Voight, Savage, et al - Democrats will not want to loom too large either lest they become bigger targets.

        But ask yourself these questions:

        Why do you think we opened so many prisons under Bush?
        Do you think those prison cells are for peace-loving DFHs?

        Do you think this US domestic scenario has not been planned and gamed by DIA, FBI etc.?

        First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win. -Mohandas K. Gandhi

        by ezdidit on Sun Jun 14, 2009 at 09:23:36 AM PDT

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        •  I have heard this line of argument (0+ / 0-)

          before and it seems rather off base to me.  I think the reason that we built so many prisons is to house all of our criminals.  Now, I happen to think why we have all of these "criminals" is because we have an extremely ignorant population that hasn't given any serious thought to our drug laws.

          To have 5% of the population and something like 25% of the world's inmates is insane.  And while this may come across blaming the "left" for our drug laws (which I don't do) I think a better line of argument should be attempted that uses moderate to conservative arguments to end the war on drugs.

          Taxes, police corruption, lack of respect for law and order, huge government needed to catch, prosecute and incarcerate drugs users/dealers, etc. is where the argument should focus.  We need to start winning more moderates/conservatives to the cause.

          We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein

          by theotherside on Sun Jun 14, 2009 at 02:31:08 PM PDT

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