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  •  That doesn't appear to be happening (2+ / 0-)
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    On the contrary, they seem determined to purge the foreign element.

    "The great lie of democracy, its essential paradox, is that democracy is first to be sacrificed when its security is at risk." --Ian McDonald

    by Geenius at Wrok on Sun Jun 14, 2009 at 09:53:02 AM PDT

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    •  "Foreign element". How terribly sad. (0+ / 0-)

      So they want to be pure, do they?  Purely wrong, purely outside of what's going on in people's lives.  I see no alternative to a party split.  As painful as that would be for Repubs, it's become necessary.  Hard choices ahead for lots of R voters - remain faithful to their party's "leaders", a core characteristic of most, or return to reality.  

      •  You know, we could do a lot worse (5+ / 0-)

        than if moderate Republicans and Blue Dog Democrats split off from their respective parties to form a true party of the center, allowing the more liberal Democrats to form a true party of the left, and the wingnuts to form a fraternity of robe-wearing backwoods warrior-priests howling at the moon.

        "The great lie of democracy, its essential paradox, is that democracy is first to be sacrificed when its security is at risk." --Ian McDonald

        by Geenius at Wrok on Sun Jun 14, 2009 at 10:13:38 AM PDT

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        •  Interesting idea (1+ / 0-)
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           But what,exactly would one call this party?  The Republican name would have to stay with the fringe or die out, it seems to me.  

          •  The centrists would choose something banal (4+ / 0-)
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            like the "American Party," probably, unless they were laughed off the stage for it. Possibly even then. Quite frankly, it's hard to come up with a modifier for "Democrat" that fits their point of view yet doesn't sound like a condemnation of it. Corporate Democrats? Capitalist Democrats? I wouldn't advise borrowing "Christian Democrats" from the Germans, not when its ex-Republican contingent comes from the business elite rather than the religious wing.

            "Conservative Democrats" might be the best choice. Simple, unloaded and, yes, conservative.

            Progressive Democrats, Conservative Democrats and Republicans. Plausible.

            Then again, the remaining Republicans might finally decide they need to jettison their brand after all. Then it'll be the Progressive Democrats, Conservative Democrats and American Family Party. A splinter group within the party will be upset because the majority rejected "American Christian Family Party."

            "The great lie of democracy, its essential paradox, is that democracy is first to be sacrificed when its security is at risk." --Ian McDonald

            by Geenius at Wrok on Sun Jun 14, 2009 at 11:43:22 AM PDT

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            •  America's political spectrum is (6+ / 0-)

              "exceprional".  By world standards, and mine, Bill Moyers is a conservative-centrist.

              When Canadian prime minister Stephen Harper appeared on Fox Business Channel for two 10 minutes segments he made Cavutos face sag and wince as Harper repeatedly demonstrated that the Canadian Conservative Party is to the left of both the American parties.

              And yet on the world stage the Canadian Conservatives are Conservatives.  The same is true of the European Center.

              The right wing in America has demonizes the ideas center so that nothing much happens when it centrist American politicians like Obama are in office.

        •  Rec for "robe-wearing backwoods warrior-priests" (0+ / 0-)

          howling at the moon.

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