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  •  ethnic groups nt (3+ / 0-)
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    resa, Zack from the SFV, miss SPED

    For example, the diarest is an ethnic Ashkenazic which is totally caucasian/white/whatever.  

    All these genetic studies are pretty much trash.  It's the new form of eugenics that try to prove or disprove some bullshit political ideals

    In the end, it's all nonsense.  There is only one human race.  Everyone is a member.  

    •  Meaning (3+ / 0-)
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      resa, miss SPED, axel000

      some ethnic groups are exclusively are more associated with Jewish traditions then others.  For example.. all the ones he listed.  Doesn't mean that there are no christian or muslim Ashkenazics.

      Anyways one human race yall!

    •  Genes have no ideology. (6+ / 0-)

      And what we have learned, that the phenotypic variations that we collect under the heading "race" comprise a small subset of the total genetic variation in humans, does not mean that those variations are not real.

      It's a perfectly valid scientific question. Why are certain physical characteristics common to particular groups of humans from specific areas of the Earth? Not only that, but mapping and comparing those (and other) variations in human genomes is telling us a lot about the migration patterns of ancient populations.

      Yes, some of this research makes for us uneasy, and we must guard against the social misuse of the data. But that does not change the fact that we do vary, nor does it make studying those variations useless or evil.

      --Shannon

      "It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." -- Emiliano Zapata Salazar
      "Dissent is patriotic. Blind obedience is treason." --me

      by Leftie Gunner on Thu Jun 18, 2009 at 07:59:22 AM PDT

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      •  usually that tells us more about (0+ / 0-)

        How humanity lived before it stopped evolving then anything else.  Otherwise, it is pointless racial bullshit.  

        Hey i can tell that my ancestors lived closer to the equator then say, ethnic ashkenazics, because i have a bit more melanin then ethnic Ashkenazics.  

        Human beings stopped evolving awhile ago.  We are pretty much dead in the water genetically.  The genetic studies are all trash because they account more for genetic mutations that nature would have weeded out but where not due to modern medicine or forms of medicine. Which then kept bad human habits and genes alive, such as massive imbreeding in the royal families of europe.

        We know so little about genetics yet we are so easy to point out genetics as ethnic or racial signifiers.  For all we know those genes could be junk genes.

        This is like splitting of the atom.  We did it before we knew why we should and all we got was the thing that will render us extinct.  Now we are dabbling in genetics without knowing what genes do or why they are there for a new form of eugenics,  and we all know how wonderful eugenics turned out.

        I am ranting for too long.  Time i take a chill pill.  

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