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  •  Analysis (5+ / 0-)

    Analysis is pretty tough right now.  Hame posht-e-pardeh ast.  More is happening that we don't see.  The Demonstrations are important because it's the face of what's going on.  I almost said "face of the Revolution", but I'm not sure how much of a revolution this is or isn't.  For the people, it certainly seems to be.  But is this more of a power play by Rafsanjani?  Not that I have a problem with that.  Corrupt?  Sure.  But better than the hardliners, IMO.  

    •  Agreed. (9+ / 0-)

      We are too quick in this country to seek a narrative frame that meshes with our personal ideologies rather than appreciating events for what they are. Nobody knows how this will shake out. Mr. Cornish seems informed about Iran, but I am more interested in Iranian opinions and ideas at the moment rather than analysis from our side of the world. I've never seen anything like this in my lifetime, and it renews my faith in humanity to see this happen.

      I think that what is going on though is showing the failure of the Western professional press (for the most part), especially American. We are so conditioned to accept the words from authority in this country it is difficult for a lot of people to hear the words of the people in the streets of Iran. Iranians know Iran. Listen to the Iranian people first and always.

      In every cry of every man, In every infant's cry of fear, In every voice, in every ban, The mind-forged manacles I hear

      by Areopagitica on Mon Jun 15, 2009 at 09:38:48 AM PDT

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      •  We are not getting a big picture view. (5+ / 0-)

        Iranians know Iran. Listen to the Iranian people first and always.

        There are 70 million people in Iran and we're are hearing from a group that is not representative of the whole country.  We need more information and more reliable information than we have been getting.

        •  And where is this (4+ / 0-)
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          reliable information going to come from?

          What we have now is what we have. People in the Iranian Interior Ministry claiming fraud. The people of Iran in the streets claiming fraud. The complete early overreaction of the Iranian government in shutting down these claims.

          I guess we should take A-jad at his word, or the ayatollahs and their Guardian council review.

          You know what, I trust the people on the street risking their lives to demand justice. I trust that a majority of Iranians are behind them since there are no counter demonstrations (the A-jad victory lap was manufactured, people bussed in, paramilitaries in civvies, etc). I trust the cynicism of Iranian power that the Iranian people communicate.

          But yes, we should what for professional journalists and broadcasters who were too busy BBQ'ing to their jobs this weekend. I'm sure they'll have it all cleared up for us by next weekend (as soon as Exxon and Chevron approve their message).

          There's lots of information coming in from twitter, youtube, etc. Information made by and collected by the people in the streets.

          Objectivity is never possible in the news. The hope for objectivity or reliability is a hope for digestible propaganda. We can not be mindless consumers of information anymore, nor should we have ever been. This is how news will operate, now and forever. May all the media corporations go bankrupt. They never informed you, they just tried to sell you.

          In every cry of every man, In every infant's cry of fear, In every voice, in every ban, The mind-forged manacles I hear

          by Areopagitica on Mon Jun 15, 2009 at 11:50:16 AM PDT

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      •  Not to be snarky, but... (1+ / 0-)
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        I've never seen anything like this in my lifetime

        Were you not alive in 2004 or 2006?

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