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  •  Diplomatic relations (3+ / 0-)
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    Odysseus, FrankCornish, Olon

    You seem to put great weight on re-establishment diplomatic relations with Iran. I tend to disagree. Why provide an easy target. Remember what happened the last time.

    As far as gaining a better understanding of the country, its people and politics, well, that is debatable. We have embassy's and consulates in lots of countries that we know very little about or at least we chose to superimpose our biases on whatever 'intelligence' we obtain from our diplomatic stations in foreign countries. To really learn about a country you have to have free access to travel throughout the country, meet with people of all political stripes and so forth. I doubt, if Iran was even willing to reestablish relations, that would allow this kind of free exchange in the best of times.

    I doubt we have that kind of access in places like Russia or China or Indonesia.

    Oh Barry, they are turning Health Care into an Actuary's wet dream.

    by fredlonsdale on Mon Jun 15, 2009 at 10:42:42 AM PDT

    •  True to a point (1+ / 0-)
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      some information is better than none, not to mention how Farsi speakers do you think there are in the State Department nowadays? Not too many I can assure you.

      You may find yourself in a beautiful house with a beautiful wife and you may ask yourself, "How did I get here?"

      by FrankCornish on Mon Jun 15, 2009 at 11:04:01 AM PDT

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      •  Actually, it would be interesting to know whether (3+ / 0-)
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        there have been more Farsi speakers hired under the new administration.  The previous administration was reluctant to recruit for the State Department, and even the Defense Department lacked for good Farsi translators and interpreters, but I would guess (and hope) that Obama wanted a stronger knowledge base in the State Department's and Defense Department's Iran offices than just filling posts willy-nilly with junior political lackeys.

        can i haz pittsburger? netroots nation skolurship

        by MsSpentyouth on Mon Jun 15, 2009 at 11:30:43 AM PDT

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        •  Its actually kind of hard these (3+ / 0-)
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          days. The security clearance apparatus is tough, and it takes awhile to get them into the system.

          There are also not too many people who wanted to do it under Bush. It should get better.

          You may find yourself in a beautiful house with a beautiful wife and you may ask yourself, "How did I get here?"

          by FrankCornish on Mon Jun 15, 2009 at 11:41:40 AM PDT

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          •  Back in '84 (1+ / 0-)
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            I was offered a choice between Hungarian and Farsi when I enlisted in the Army as an intelligence analyst. I chose Hungarian even though I knew Farsi was more important, but I didn't want to spend my army life in Kuwait.

            As it turns out, it didn't matter anyway, since I washed out of basic training with a bum shoulder.

            Hige sceal þe heardra, heorte þe cenre, mod sceal þe mare, þe ure mægen lytlað

            by milkbone on Mon Jun 15, 2009 at 12:24:54 PM PDT

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