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  •  It's an unfair but understandable program. (2+ / 0-)
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    auapplemac, MKSinSA

    In the typical functioning of a many large urban public school systems, the worst teachers end up over time at the most challenged schools...which is part of those schools becoming the worst schools by every metric.  The Turnaround program purges those teachers and brings in better teachers.  There's no gentler way to put it.

    The unfairness of it all is pretty obvious, but it wasn't developed out of spite and if some evil mind wanted to expand white privilege they could have come up with an easier way and a better prize!  At this point, given that the interest of children win out over those of adults, the only case I'd be willing to consider from the fired teachers is that they're actually better than the new ones, and that would be a very hard case to make.

    Al que no le guste el caldo, le dan dos tazas.

    by Rich in PA on Tue Jun 16, 2009 at 07:44:06 PM PDT

    •  On what are you basing your arguments? (1+ / 0-)
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      I'm seeing a lot of talking points, but not a lot of data or even anecdotal evidence to support your claims.

      Schools in Chicago that have been "turned around" are schools that are in some of the most impoverished areas. Studies show that socioeconomic background is a key determining factor in academic achievement. That is why these schools earn some of the lowest test scores, which is the sole determinant of whether or not a school is closed.

      That's not to say that these students cannot be reached; quite the contrary. These schools just require additional resources that will allow them such things as smaller class sizes. These schools are not given the same resources that non-innercity schools are given and these tests or norm-referenced, comparing students with the largest obstacles with their more-affluent counterparts.

      This is the false dichotomy that "reformers" repeat over over again until people start believing them. It's not a matter of turn around vs. the status quo.

      Turn around is a program that effectively busts unions and destabilizes neighborhoods. However, it cuts costs to the districts. That is the rationale behind the program. Any other argument is just justification.

      "Your conspiracy theories won't work without evidence." -Nasir Jones

      by Tristero 312 on Tue Jun 16, 2009 at 08:03:20 PM PDT

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    •  Not really, it's just a solution that some people (0+ / 0-)

      are buying into.  In my school district, for example, we just had a lay-off to assuage the public, the teacher's were obviously at fault for everything.  Then they ran a negative budget to get control over the funds so the board and superintendent could happily hand out huge building contracts for things we don't need again without the pesky public looking on.

      Things really aren't simple enough to be fixed by firing everyone.

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