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  •  Dr. Kessler: (3+ / 0-)
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    Floja Roja, anotherdemocrat, AnnieJo

    What are your thoughts about my story?

    I became a vegetarian 37 years ago. I exercised vigorously, bicycling 200 miles per week, and still I had problems binging on sweets and carbs. It wasn't until I moved to my farm, began growing my own food and stopped eating sugar, and stopped the excessive exercising, that the food cravings went away. In other words, even after the modification of diet to whole grains, beans and home-grown organic produce only, I still overate. When I stopped exercising I calmed down, am better able to concentrate, and only eat when I'm hungry. My BMI is a steady 19, with no more weight fluctuation.

    I think there's more to it than merely avoiding HFCS, trans-fats and salt, which hadn't been a part of my diet: I never ate that stuff, but I still had a binging problem (on home-made carbs, such as a rice salad).

    •  fascinating and insightful point (4+ / 0-)

      exercise is a substitute reward.  your brain can get captured not only by food but by many other stimuli.  exercise is one of them.  i wonder about the cross mechanisms invovlved.   I remember for a period of time i would leave the gym and go out an eat two bagels afterward.  do you think it is the exercise or the conditioning that after exercise it is okay to overeat?

      •  I was hungry, and couldn't stop eating, (4+ / 0-)

        couldn't tell that I'd had enough and was 'satisfied'. Now I eat small portions and even sometimes can't finish even that, because I can feel in my stomach when I've eaten enough. It's that different: I can feel in my stomach when I'm full. Before, when I was exercising a lot, I just kept eating, so I think the exercise may have done to my brain something similar to what the fast food does.

        There was some reward aspect to it. But why has that all gone away now? I don't see food as a reward any more. Since I grow it, and cook everything from scratch, I spend way more time preparing it, yet don't eat too much. The reward is knowing how totally healthful my food is now. My breakfast every day is a stew with 10 vegetables, home-grown beans and rice or barley.

        My sweet tooth is totally gone. That was definitely tied in with the exercise.

    •  Halcyon, I am more into exercise info... (4+ / 0-)

        than food. Increased exercise like 200 miles per week and other physical activity had to ramp up your basal metabolism like crazy.
        The increased calorie need for young people under 30 who exercise to this level can increase calorie need by 50% over BMR normally. I have heard of some people are wired such that this would increase to 80-90% if strength training is also included.
        BMR is normally 11 times your weight. 200 lbs would be 2200 calories a day and then add in other calories based upon age and activity in your exercise program. At my age 60, it is about 20-25% extra to maintain a weight of 200 lbs, I would need to stay around 2400-2500 calories a day.
        If your body needs that much replenishment based upon your exercise, your brain went into a whirl to tell you to binge.

      •  Why couldn't I tell when I'd eaten (3+ / 0-)
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        Floja Roja, NC Dem, anotherdemocrat

        enough to make up for the exercise? It always felt like a treadmill. I couldn't tell whether I was exercising to burn off the excess I'd eaten the day before, or creating a deficit to be replaced by the next meal.

        Also, I was always fidgety. I'm 60 now, and this was true for almost 30 years, until 6 years ago when I stopped cycling.

        •  My first reaction is that it is just the (2+ / 0-)
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          Halcyon, anotherdemocrat

            residual but still very "real" leftover from our evolution. Think about it like this:

             Your ancestors were the best of the hunters...overtime you developed the brain switch that told your grandfathers when they ran down the deer, or trapped the otter, or pulled more fish from the lake, that it was even more important to hunt the next animal now. Do it quickly while you have the energy, strength and momentum. It also has a component for protection of family. Providing food for family. But in the end.. it's all about survival of the fittest.

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