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  •  keep on raising it (26+ / 0-)

    when I did commercial instruction, our basic rule of thumb was a minimum of 3 repetitions

    1.  Tell them what you are going to tell them
    1.  tell them
    1.  tell them what you have told them

    As a teacher of adolescents, it depends.  If something catches their fancy, I might only have to say it once.  I know because on their free final fun projects some of them include things I have only said once.

    Otherwise?  I may need to say/illustrate it 5 times.

    Repetition -  keep on saying it.

    do we still have a Republic and a Constitution if our elected officials will not stand up for them on our behalf?

    by teacherken on Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 10:41:08 PM PDT

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    •  I think that comes from medical education (14+ / 0-)

      At least -- when I worked for a medical school, back in the dark ages when 2 women in a class of 60 medical students was considered great progress (1973) -- I was told that the "tell them" mantra had been the standard for teaching medical students forever.  
      It made great sense to me at a time when not much else made sense!  I need to remember to use it w/ my 9 year old.
      Excellent diary.  My husband and I campaigned energetically and enthusiastically for Obama.  I knew he wouldn't be perfect (who is?), but I thought that on these issues in particular he would be terrific, and I was encouraged when one of the first things he did (I think it might have been the first or 2nd day he was in office) was announce the closing of Guantanamo.  Unfortunately, it's been downhill since then.
      We need to keep the pressure on him.
      But I certainly appreciated and admired his speech in Cairo.  

      If, in our efforts to win, we become as dishonest as our opponents on the right, we don't deserve to triumph.

      by Tamar on Tue Jun 30, 2009 at 12:31:05 AM PDT

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    •  This should be repeated: The prosecutor's appeal (12+ / 0-)

      Read this.  I was stunned by it.  It is from the affidavit submitted by Jawad's own former prosecutor.

      This is as powerful a declaration as I have ever read:

      Ultimately. I decided that I could no longer ethically prosecute Mr. Jawad or, in good conscience, serve as a prosecutor at OMC-P. I have taken an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United states. and I remain confident that' have done so, spending over four of the past seven years away from my family, my home.
      my civilian occupation - all without any expectation of or desire for any reward greater than the Knowledge that I have remained true to my word and have done my level best to rise to our Nation's defense in its fime of need. I did not "quit" the Commissions or resign; instead. I personally petitioned the Army's judge Advocate General to allow me to serve the remaining six months of my two year voluntary obligation in
      Afghanistan or Iraq, In 1he exercise of his wisdom and discretion. He permitted me to be released from active duty. However, had I been retumed to Afghanistan or Iraq.  

      And had I encountered Mohammed Jawad in either of those hostile lands, where two of my friends have been killed in action and another one of my very best friends in the world had been terribly wounded, I have no doubt at all- none - that Mr. Jawad would pose no threat whatsoever to me, his former prosecutor and now-repentant persecutor. Six years is long enough for a boy of sixteen to serve in virtual solitary confinement. in a distant land, for reasons he may never fully understand. I respectfully ask this Court to rind that Mr. Jawad's continued detention is unsupported by any
      credibie evidence, any provision of the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005, the MCA, international law or our own hallowed Constitution. Mr. Jawad should be release, to resume his life in a civil society, for his sake. and for our own sense of justice and
      perhaps to restore a measure of our basic humanity.

      One wonders how many more Jawads there are.  And what is to be done with them.

      Change takes time. It's a marathon, not a sprint. Remember that.

      by LarsThorwald on Tue Jun 30, 2009 at 06:50:28 AM PDT

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      •  Our basic humanity =EQ= Grand Theft Auto. (0+ / 0-)

        That's what we allow.

        That's what we condone.

        That is what we are.

        Sorry about that...............................

        Angry White Males + DSM IV Personality Disorder delusionals + sane Pro-Lifers =EQ= The Base

        by vets74 on Tue Jun 30, 2009 at 10:13:56 AM PDT

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    •  As a tour guide, (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      abarefootboy, mattman

      we were told to say 'it' three times.

      Once for the people listening
      twice for the people not listening
      third for the dullards.

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