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  •  Um, your point was (0+ / 0-)

    that negotiating with the Taliban was proof that we regarded them as a "government".

    Unless you consider Koresh a "government",  the fact that we also negotiated with him disproves your contention.

    •  we negotiated with them as if they were (2+ / 0-)
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      mattman, DivaBabe

      whether or not they were legally recognized as such

      and we never negotiated with Koresh as if he were mayor

      but had he surrendered or been captured he would have been entitled to legal rights

      do we still have a Republic and a Constitution if our elected officials will not stand up for them on our behalf?

      by teacherken on Tue Jun 30, 2009 at 06:13:19 AM PDT

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      •  Negotiating with Koresh (2+ / 0-)
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        mattman, Mad Kossack

        was akin to negotiating with a hostage-taker. Ran is calling apples oranges.

        And his "Um..." is irking me.

        Pick battles small enough to win but big enough to matter.

        by DivaBabe on Tue Jun 30, 2009 at 06:52:47 AM PDT

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        •  Not as much as your lack of (0+ / 0-)

          knowledge of recent history is irking me.

          The Bushies' "negotiations" with the Taliban were exactly like those with hostage takers:  a simple demand to "Comply or die".

          From just before the bombing started:

          "The president made clear his demands," said an administration official, who asked not to be identified. "Those demands are not subject to negotiation and it is time for the Taliban to act now."

          And a week later,  when the Taliban attempted to negotiate a compromise:

          "There is nothing to negotiate about. They are harboring a terrorist," Bush told reporters.

          The Bush administration has repeatedly refused any conditions on its demands that the Taliban surrender bin Laden and his al-Qaida terror movement suspected in the Sept. 11 terror attacks in the United States. The United States launched the bombardment of Afghanistan on Oct. 7 after the Taliban refused for weeks to comply.

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