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  •  Clean coal. (6+ / 0-)

    He's been talking it up since way back in Chicago on his birthday in 2007.  Because of "Yankee ingenuity" and "Yes We Can".  There's some things that we really shouldn't do, even if we "can."

    The river always wins. -- Mark Twain

    by Land of Enchantment on Sun Jul 05, 2009 at 07:57:49 PM PDT

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    •  Then he should get along great (4+ / 0-)
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      with Texas Gov. Rick Perry, also a big believer in a future where clean coal is more than just a slick slogan.

      Why does this example of true bipartisan common ground not make me feel good?

      Positive, one syllable words really sell. The business world and advertisers sell "clean" and "green," politicians sell "hope" and "change". When they are both nouns and verbs, they work even better. So we should not be surprised that millions of dollars are being spent on selling "clean coal" to the public.

      This resonates because the environmental movement was built around clean air and clean water laws and regulatory programs. The coal industry is doing this because it feels threatened by the national and global interest in fighting global warming with its emphasis on greatly reducing greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide, associated with burning fossil fuels.

      The American Coalition for Clean Coal Electricity launched a $15 million-plus campaign earlier this year. Television ads are constantly being aired telling us in glowing terms about clean coal, as if the coal industry has cleaned up its act by using green technology. Just one problem, the clean coal message is one big green lie. With the likelihood that the Obama administration will provide huge sums of money to stimulate a green economy, including alternative energy sources, the coal industry that wants to greatly expand is willing to pump money into a deceptive advertising campaign.

    •  Yes. I remember. (1+ / 0-)
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      I'd hoped he was joking.

      •  Many of us thought he was. (0+ / 0-)

        We were pretty sure that Obama was pandering for votes from mining towns.  Apparently, we were wrong and Pres. Obama really does believe in clean coal.  If not, he would stop this assault.  But it's also that he doesn't want to lose all those jobs.  If he cancels MTR then the unemployment numbers go up.  If he doesn't keep the economy in line then he'll have little mandate for anything else.  Those jobs are important.

        "The only thing to fear is tomorrows. I don't live for tomorrows. They're no fun." - Denny Crane

        by rainmanjr on Sun Jul 05, 2009 at 10:40:55 PM PDT

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        •  Put some windmill... (1+ / 0-)
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          ...or solar panel manufacturing in those areas and put people to work that way. Do the roads need repair? I thought some of the stimulus money was to go to infrastructure. Those things could take up the slack in job loss. Couldn't they?

          •  Yes, but it wouldn't happen seamlessly. (0+ / 0-)

            If he stopped MTR before those jobs are created then people will be out of work for a while.  He's just started fighting the battle for energy and, if I remember correctly, he has the supposrt of Blue Dogs.  So there's hope for ending MTR in the near future but it can't be done now.

            "The only thing to fear is tomorrows. I don't live for tomorrows. They're no fun." - Denny Crane

            by rainmanjr on Mon Jul 06, 2009 at 09:06:24 AM PDT

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            •  Pehaps it wouldn't hurt for him to go there... (0+ / 0-)

              ...where the mountains are being destroyed and talk with the people. With all the money being distributed to everyone and his uncle, how much would it take to subsidize retraining of miners and new industries in the area? How much more would it take to keep these people afloat until these goals could be accomplished? Say, maybe .001% of the amount that went to the financial industry? Just a guess.

              •  Probably true but welfare for industry? (0+ / 0-)

                The stimulus bill was unpopular because of added debt to U.S., and loans for corporations that control millions of jobs was wildly unpopular, so I don't see approving welfare for out of work miners until new energy sources could create jobs will be well received, either.  Look, I agree that MTR is a tragic mistake, and should be stopped, I just don't know about sacrificing political allys when we need them most is a good idea.  My inclination is that it's not.

                "The only thing to fear is tomorrows. I don't live for tomorrows. They're no fun." - Denny Crane

                by rainmanjr on Tue Jul 07, 2009 at 09:29:41 AM PDT

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